Decision to make

Decision to make

Poll: Decision to make

Total Members Polled: 32

ITBs: 12
Turbo: 21
Author
Discussion

DangerousDerek

Original Poster:

8,655 posts

220 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Help me decide.
I am gettting a good deal on wild cat heads on my latest engine build. Need to decide on whether to stay NA with ITBs and direct port nitrous or retain a standard(ish) inlet and go turbo. I plan a few thousand miles on the road next year. What do we reckon?

The NA option should yield over 400 bhp.

The turbo option could be over 500 easily.

macdeb

8,511 posts

255 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Either will be fab' look forward to this.
obviously a can of worms opening up, again rolleyes

BoostedChim

541 posts

225 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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I've always liked that you took a different route from the norm with the nitrous, I reckon keep going!

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

149 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Whichever is the fastest,,, turbo then yikes

carsy

3,018 posts

165 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Its a difficult one thats for sure.

How is your compression looking for a turbo.

Why not have a go in Peters car, he`s knocking on the door of 400
Then have a go in Macs and see which does it for you.

I know you will end up with more which ever way you go but it may help you decide.

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Hmmm.... nearly posted the other day when you mentioned the wild cat heads and N/A, was simply wondering why go to all that trouble when the turbo is such a 'simple' and cost effective solution..

I know I've said this before so apologies for being repetitive, but next step for beastie had to be ITB's, it didn't stack up to turbo or SC a lump with 10.6/1 CR... but at over 3k a pop for an ITB set up and possibly only another 20bhp from them I simply couldn't justify it..

Turbo gets my vote Derek... wink

carsy

3,018 posts

165 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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I`ve had a think.

Turbo it is.

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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I voted Turbo...

But the truth is... nothing, and I mean nothing! beats a large capacity normally aspirated engine.

To that end Derek, can you add a 6.3 litre LS3 option to the vote please?

That Cerbera I drove with a LS in it was insanity itself, but what really amazed me was how much of a pussycat it was when you just wanted to pootle about.

Big torque is good, but how it's delivered is everything wink

Twistygit

800 posts

153 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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ChimpOnGas said:
I voted Turbo...

But the truth is... nothing, and I mean nothing! beats a large capacity normally aspirated engine.

To that end Derek, can you add a 6.3 litre LS3 option to the vote please?

That Cerbera I drove with a LS in it was insanity itself, but what really amazed me was how much of a pussycat it was when you just wanted to pootle about.

Big torque is good, but how it's delivered is everything wink
I think this also

Boosted LS1

21,187 posts

260 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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What compression ratio will you have? For big fun safely I'd suggest 8:1 with a turbo or two. I think that's going to be safer then a big 'hit' of nitrous. You'll need an expensive clutch to go with it. If you keep the tvr plenum you can modify it to accept twin charge coolers. It's good you have a deal on the table. If not I'd have suggested the Ls option.

ETA, will the rover inlets match the wildcat heads?

DangerousDerek

Original Poster:

8,655 posts

220 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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The bottom end is built.
ACR remanufactured block with toughened offset ground crank, Chevy rods and forged pistons with floating pins and spring locks. 7.5 thou deck height and 22cc bowl including cut outs.

The wild cat heads are new bare castings yet to be CNC ported and the chambers have tons of meat so we can set the CR there.

Boosted LS1

21,187 posts

260 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Cool. Well imo a nice low c/r would add a safety margin and allow a lot of boost. Way to go. smile

QBee

20,984 posts

144 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Of your two choices, turbo has to be the answer on the strip, as it will give you the option of more power than NA, and you simply don't need to use the turbo on the pubic road.

But having been for a ride in Quinny's LS Grief, my vote is for an LS engine. Loads of torque and bhp, pussycat in town, smooth tickover, decent mpg, wonderful rumble.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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I really can't get exited about an LS I'm afraid.

For me, Wildcat heads and ITBs , for you,.................probably turbo!

swanny71

2,854 posts

209 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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phazed said:
For me, Wildcat heads and ITBs , for you,.................probably turbo!
Exactly what I was about to write. Voted Turbo for Derek but I'd go N/A with funky heads/ITB's.

Bluebottle

3,498 posts

240 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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NA with itb sound awesome...I don't get nos...it's like taking a drag of a mate's reefer, Once it's gone its gone...and big v8's have always gone with superchargers...turbos are for rice burners.

DangerousDerek

Original Poster:

8,655 posts

220 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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I like the way you guys are considering my needs when making the vote. A couple years ago I would have been tempted to go SC. A part if me would love to build an all out drag car with a proper old school blower out the bonnet.

But after seeing a few recent and very successful turbo installs I think it will serve me best.
Going to aim for 500bhp as a starting point.

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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I'm voting for a blowjob Del! Has to be less chance of it spunking its guts that way surely?

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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Bassfiend229hp said:
less chance of it spunking its guts
I love this technical terminology stuff, Phil in particular is a master of it hehe

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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ChilliWhizz said:
Bassfiend229hp said:
less chance of it spunking its guts
I love this technical terminology stuff, Phil in particular is a master of it hehe
Phil definitely has a special way with words hehe

And I've noticed over the years that worryingly his words usually involve something sperm related sperm

This being one of my particular favorites...

Bassfiend said:
Graham said:
i want this one



2 nice cold air feeds.
Oh God that looks good ... I think a little bit of sex-wee came out!!!!