Is this ban enough ?
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I would say that it was reasonable, considering he had already been kicked out of a whole meeting for taking the leader out i'd suggest that motorsport is probably a safer place until he can learn to grow up a bit, two years is a good starting point.
Although I wonder if he will appeal this decision like all the others?
Although I wonder if he will appeal this decision like all the others?
Hmmm but its not a 2 year ban, its a 1 year ban with the second year suspended. Its also odd they state he can test Im not sure I would want him out testing given his licence is effectively suspended and he needs to retake an ARDS test.
Its not the first issue with him either, he does not give juniors a good name!
Its not the first issue with him either, he does not give juniors a good name!
According to the article he's apologised - yet there is nothing on his very shiny website & social media presence.
So either he's hasn't been humbled by what happened and isn't sorry, in which case the ban probably isn't long enough - or he's given up, now that there's presumably zero chance of his reaching his F1 dreams, in which case the ban is irrelevant as he won't be back anyway.
So either he's hasn't been humbled by what happened and isn't sorry, in which case the ban probably isn't long enough - or he's given up, now that there's presumably zero chance of his reaching his F1 dreams, in which case the ban is irrelevant as he won't be back anyway.
skeggysteve said:
Not enough by a long way.
Quote from Autosport about Ticktum:
"passed 13 yellow flags, four double-yellow flags, two white flags and 15 safety-car boards to catch back up to his rival during the safety-car period."
I don't think he should be allowed a race licence ever again.
Caught back up with, to then hit.Quote from Autosport about Ticktum:
"passed 13 yellow flags, four double-yellow flags, two white flags and 15 safety-car boards to catch back up to his rival during the safety-car period."
I don't think he should be allowed a race licence ever again.
Given that the yellow flags and safety car clearly mean that there was an incident that marshals were dealing with, his moves could have led to another extremely serious incident. If he'd killed some one, what would have been the result.......manslaughter?
I am not sure I agree with the "burn him at the stake" brigade.
A 1 year ban and the reputational damage will seriously inhibit his career. What sponsor wants to be associated with him now?
Also, to put it in to perspective, if you take EPO, testosterone or other performance enhancing drugs, in a calculated pre meditated way to cheat your opponents and then get caught, it is a 2 year ban. This guy lost his head and went mental.
I accept EPO doesn't kill marshals or competitors... I am just trying to draw a comparison of the ban to other sports. I think the judgement was correct personally.
A 1 year ban and the reputational damage will seriously inhibit his career. What sponsor wants to be associated with him now?
Also, to put it in to perspective, if you take EPO, testosterone or other performance enhancing drugs, in a calculated pre meditated way to cheat your opponents and then get caught, it is a 2 year ban. This guy lost his head and went mental.
I accept EPO doesn't kill marshals or competitors... I am just trying to draw a comparison of the ban to other sports. I think the judgement was correct personally.
andy97 said:
Caught back up with, to then hit.
Given that the yellow flags and safety car clearly mean that there was an incident that marshals were dealing with, his moves could have led to another extremely serious incident. If he'd killed some one, what would have been the result.......manslaughter?
I honestly don't know. Mansluaghter is the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or in circumstances not amounting to murder.Given that the yellow flags and safety car clearly mean that there was an incident that marshals were dealing with, his moves could have led to another extremely serious incident. If he'd killed some one, what would have been the result.......manslaughter?
So maybe....if it was directly in contravention of regulations he knew to exist and knew were there for safety.
Edited by Vocal Minority on Wednesday 25th November 08:39
I'd certainly not want to be on track with someone who had done that. However, I have no idea what's long enough.
Two years seems long enough. I guess that doing 1 and suspending the second year gives him chance to come back having learnt a lesson and effectively be on probation. I wonder what the terms of the suspended year are? How well behaved does he have to be?
So all in all maybe good enough. Makes the point, but allows him to come back and show he's changed.
Bert
Two years seems long enough. I guess that doing 1 and suspending the second year gives him chance to come back having learnt a lesson and effectively be on probation. I wonder what the terms of the suspended year are? How well behaved does he have to be?
So all in all maybe good enough. Makes the point, but allows him to come back and show he's changed.
Bert
Should be a life ban - he had prior form for deliberately hitting another at Croft earlier in the season. Hitting another car deliberately should never be acceptable, and to do it under safety conditions putting every one else as severe risk shows an absolute disregard for the basic safety ethos of the sport. A life ban was the correct thing to do.
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t about basic regulations or the safety of anyone around him. Completely inexcusable behaviour, not for the first time
He got off lightly for what he did, I genuinely hope his 'career' is at least delayed, and he is ordered to seek some sort of psychiatric treatment before being allowed on a track again
indigorallye said:
Young kid, lots of pressure on shoulders and a championship at stake.
Made a huge error of judgement. No one was killed, no one was injured.
I think the punishment fits the crime.
(I don't know his history, and yes I do support our marshals)
You should check out his history. Uncontrolled ego who doesn't give a sMade a huge error of judgement. No one was killed, no one was injured.
I think the punishment fits the crime.
(I don't know his history, and yes I do support our marshals)
t about basic regulations or the safety of anyone around him. Completely inexcusable behaviour, not for the first time He got off lightly for what he did, I genuinely hope his 'career' is at least delayed, and he is ordered to seek some sort of psychiatric treatment before being allowed on a track again
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