What to look for when choosing uPVC Windows?

What to look for when choosing uPVC Windows?

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TSCfree

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1,681 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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We're having new double glazed windows throughout the house and have asked 3 local window companies for quotes. The question is as per the title really, but are there any window manufacturer brands to look out for and are they worth the premium? or any to avoid? Has anyone heard or Liniar or Deceuninck?

I'm tempted to go with the cheapest quote as surely there can't be that much difference between products, but I'd rather not compromise quality too much?

cptsideways

13,546 posts

252 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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The glass part appears to me to be critical, have had cheap DG units fail & go fugged up after a short period with no comeback. I'd be asking about the type of DG seal the glazing has, I'm sure someone will pipe up as I'm no expert.

IMHO spend the money on A rated glazing, the frames are all much the same I'm sure. I'd also avoid any company that does "the typical DG'ing sales pitch process"

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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I'M no expert but we used a local Company who have been doing it for 30yrs, they weren't cheap but I've seen some really cheap products in other peoples houses including several neighbours. Ours are A rated, slimmer profiles than many & a mate pointed out our doors have more locking points than his do.

Ours also came with an insurance backed 25yr guarantee. Many small co's buy windows from the cheapest manufacturer locally & just fit them, the Co we used make their own.

TSCfree

Original Poster:

1,681 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Thanks for the replies. So after a bit of googling I've got a tick list

FENSA Regulated
Building regs approved
Insurance backed Guarantee
BFRC - for unit rating Type A etc
Glass and Glazing Federation member
Window manufacturer BS ISO9001

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

136 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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If they're local you should be able to have a look at some existing installs they've done. Fit and finish depends on the installers as much as the product and it's not something you'll find out from the spec sheet.

I have a feeling the installation also affects whether the glazed units end up being warped (like too much packing introducing compression) as it definitely seems that 'cheap' installs end up with lots of distortion on the panes and other installs are nice and flat.


northwest monkey

6,370 posts

189 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Make sure the chap that comes round rings his manager for a better deal.

mikeiow

5,367 posts

130 months

littlebasher

3,780 posts

171 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Surely you'd want to buy one, and get one free

I say buy one, and get one free

ILoveMondeo

9,614 posts

226 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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northwest monkey said:
Make sure the chap that comes round rings his manager for a better deal.
Indeed, that's the way to get the best price, but you have to sign there and then, the offer is only good for 15 minutes.


Seriously though, any of this st, send them packing.





herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Check the outside cill is one you like. My old wood cills were chunky and set into the walls at the ends. The plastic ones turned out to be very thin and simply chopped to the same length as the frame. I was very disappointed with this.
Get an insert for each pane to match the opening panes. Looks unbalanced otherwise.
You want the frames to fit the openings. You don't want them to be made to look as though they fit by covering up edges with bits of plastic trim.

Simon Brooks

1,517 posts

251 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Make sure the glass is fitted from the inside so that the beading cant be removed by your local villain !!

Spunagain

755 posts

258 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Check the glass is truly flat. I have seen windows with a slight curve to them and it is really odd. I do not know who made them.

spats

838 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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ILoveMondeo said:
northwest monkey said:
Make sure the chap that comes round rings his manager for a better deal.
Indeed, that's the way to get the best price, but you have to sign there and then, the offer is only good for 15 minutes.


Seriously though, any of this st, send them packing.

If you do this you would have very little options left of who to go with. We have had visits from a fair few from national to local companies and everyone had to ring the boss.

They did try and old 15 mins to decide crap, I showed them the door and surprise surprise the offer is still there months on.

All I wanted was a porch door with an arch. most wanted several grand! Got it down to nearly a grand by the third week of them calling.

groomi

9,317 posts

243 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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herewego said:
Get an insert for each pane to match the opening panes. Looks unbalanced otherwise.
Whilst I agree about the balance look, this increases the width of the window frame considerably. Depending on the size of your windows, you could be left with a very odd ratio of plastic to glass - so consider it carefully.

ILoveMondeo

9,614 posts

226 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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spats said:
ILoveMondeo said:
northwest monkey said:
Make sure the chap that comes round rings his manager for a better deal.
Indeed, that's the way to get the best price, but you have to sign there and then, the offer is only good for 15 minutes.


Seriously though, any of this st, send them packing.
If you do this you would have very little options left of who to go with. We have had visits from a fair few from national to local companies and everyone had to ring the boss.

They did try and old 15 mins to decide crap, I showed them the door and surprise surprise the offer is still there months on.

All I wanted was a porch door with an arch. most wanted several grand! Got it down to nearly a grand by the third week of them calling.
Weird, all the local companies I got quotes from came to measure and then we got the quotes a day or two later for us to have a mull over, no hint of trying to get you to sign there and then, calling the boss, will the wife be there, or any of the usual "tactics".

There's 3 or 4 fairly big outfits in Reading, where I was looking, and I even had a local builder who've I've used before who was happy to quote.

TSCfree

Original Poster:

1,681 posts

231 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Had the first quote yesterday from a chap for 11 Windows, a composite door, and dormer cladding; £6900 which he was discounting by 60% already rolleyes. spoke to his manager and reduced to £4200... held for a week. Second just been, quote will be sent in a few days. Surprised at the price variation of composite doors from 1200- 2400!

Condi

17,190 posts

171 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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TSCfree said:
Had the first quote yesterday from a chap for 11 Windows, a composite door, and dormer cladding; £6900 which he was discounting by 60% already rolleyes. spoke to his manager and reduced to £4200...
Seems very cheap to me. Very cheap indeed if that is supply and fit.


TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

146 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Condi said:
Seems very cheap to me. Very cheap indeed if that is supply and fit.
Just had 5 normal, and 2 bay (which count as 5 each) UPVC, made and installed by a small, local company for £4700.
I'm sure I could have got cheaper, but the bloke who take out to measure up was the director, said he'd have a quote the next day, then 2 hours after he left there was a full quote in my email inbox.

CornishRob

256 posts

134 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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I have ordered 11 windows. 1 Bay window and 8 other sash windows.

In white wood grain effect UPVC, Deep bottom rail, and mechanically butt jointed.

just over £11K fitted.

We had about 5 quotes. The above were not the cheapest, but they seemed the best windows, and the company seemed ok. 20 years guarantee, FENSA etc etc

TSCfree

Original Poster:

1,681 posts

231 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Condi said:
TSCfree said:
Had the first quote yesterday from a chap for 11 Windows, a composite door, and dormer cladding; £6900 which he was discounting by 60% already rolleyes. spoke to his manager and reduced to £4200...
Seems very cheap to me. Very cheap indeed if that is supply and fit.
Yep supply and fit liniar windows. To be honest I thought that was on the high side for extruded plastic boxes and 2 pieces of glass slapped together. 11 grand seems fantasy pricing to me.