Displaying an out-of-date tax disc?

Displaying an out-of-date tax disc?

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Toffer

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1,527 posts

262 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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I read this in our local car club newsletter, do you think this is true, or another urban motoring myth?

According to this month’s Practical Classics you can be
fined and receive points on your licence for displaying
an out-of-date tax disc, even though there is now no
requirement for a disc! Can this really be true? I
recently purchased a replica tax disc for my Mini, dated
for when the car was first taxed in 1963. It is displayed
on the windscreen in the time-honoured position and I
shall not be removing it for the following reasons:
(1) I believe that Practical classics is mistaken, and
(2) if they are right I would be prepared to contest any
attempt to punish me for having a piece of paper stuck
in a safe place on the windscreen……


andy-xr

13,204 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Some people dont have enough going on in their life to have this as a problem

grimmac

1,412 posts

111 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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I presume they cited the relevant legislation in the article..

Do you really think this is going to be at the top of any police officers hit list even if it was true?

mgtony

4,022 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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You didn't get points for no tax even when their was a requirement for the disc!

kambites

67,617 posts

222 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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I would be amazed if it is true - I suspect half the cars on the road are currently displaying an out of date tax disc.

thebraketester

14,257 posts

139 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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I've still got mine in that expired in summer. No intentions of removing it.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Toffer said:
I read this in our local car club newsletter, do you think this is true, or another urban motoring myth?

According to this month’s Practical Classics...
Anybody got the last few Craptical Plastics to hand, can check up on whether it REALLY says that?

Against it, I offer...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance...
https://blog.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/have-you-st...

Riley Blue

20,988 posts

227 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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I say it's total bks

SS2.

14,466 posts

239 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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It was probably alongside other well researched articles such as the one that claims your un-MOT'd classic has to be driven to the closest centre for testing, and the associated piece that says if it fails the test the current certificate is void and the car cannot be driven on the road.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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SS2. said:
and the associated piece that says if it fails the test the current certificate is void and the car cannot be driven on the road.
Which is partially true, it can only be driven to and from a place of repair / retest.

LittleEnus

3,228 posts

175 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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andy-xr said:
Some people dont have enough going on in their life to have this as a problem
Couldn't agree more.

TA14

12,722 posts

259 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Toffer said:
I read this in our local car club newsletter, do you think this is true, or another urban motoring myth?

According to this month’s Practical Classics you can be
fined and receive points on your licence for displaying
an out-of-date tax disc, even though there is now no
requirement for a disc! Can this really be true? I
recently purchased a replica tax disc for my Mini, dated
for when the car was first taxed in 1963. It is displayed
on the windscreen in the time-honoured position and I
shall not be removing it for the following reasons:
(1) I believe that Practical classics is mistaken, and
(2) if they are right I would be prepared to contest any
attempt to punish me for having a piece of paper stuck
in a safe place on the windscreen……
I guess: that the replica tax disc would have fallen foul of regulation 7:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/2742/regul...
however as mentioned above this is no longer the case because it has been repealed:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/2358/sched...

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

227 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Were I to carry an equally defunct dog licence with me to walk Fido and Pooch, do we think I'd end up on the receiving end of Jason Van Dyke?

We're dragging ourselves out of the deepest hole we've ever been in. The UK is staffed by about 6 police officers. Do we honestly believe that someone was commissioned to draft legislation to this effect?

Come on, pull the other one.

droopsnoot

12,000 posts

243 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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I've got the October and December issues of PC here and can't find any mention of replica tax discs. In any case, as above, while it used to be illegal to display something that was intended to look like a tax disc (even for VED exempt vehicles), that was repealed when the tax disc was done away with.

Sheepshanks

32,835 posts

120 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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jhfozzy said:
SS2. said:
and the associated piece that says if it fails the test the current certificate is void and the car cannot be driven on the road.
Which is partially true, it can only be driven to and from a place of repair / retest.
...can you find any legislation to confirm that?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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It has to be nonsense. What exactly does an meaningless piece of paper affect on the road? It doesn't make any sense.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
jhfozzy said:
SS2. said:
and the associated piece that says if it fails the test the current certificate is void and the car cannot be driven on the road.
Which is partially true, it can only be driven to and from a place of repair / retest.
...can you find any legislation to confirm that?
Yes, unfortunately.

I would have loved this to be incorrect as I have used the previous "exemption" many times before. I always do my MOTs as early as allowed to fix any faults that may arise.

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test

gov.uk said:
Driving a vehicle that’s failed

You must not drive the vehicle on the road if it fails the test, even if the MOT hasn’t run out, except to:

have the failed defects fixed
a pre-arranged MOT test appointment

J4CKO

41,676 posts

201 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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I think the Daily Mail will probably run a story on this and somehow add an Islamic angle to it for good measure.

Riley Blue

20,988 posts

227 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Friends of mine with classic cars have often displayed tax discs from the original year of registration, some dating back to the 1930s. Not one has reported any problems.

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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jhfozzy said:
Sheepshanks said:
jhfozzy said:
SS2. said:
and the associated piece that says if it fails the test the current certificate is void and the car cannot be driven on the road.
Which is partially true, it can only be driven to and from a place of repair / retest.
...can you find any legislation to confirm that?
Yes, unfortunately.

I would have loved this to be incorrect as I have used the previous "exemption" many times before. I always do my MOTs as early as allowed to fix any faults that may arise.

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test

gov.uk said:
Driving a vehicle that’s failed

You must not drive the vehicle on the road if it fails the test, even if the MOT hasn’t run out, except to:

have the failed defects fixed
a pre-arranged MOT test appointment
He asked for legislation, not the propaganda from .gov.uk which presents a DVLA view of the truth.