Retro fit Auto Rev Match to E92 M3

Retro fit Auto Rev Match to E92 M3

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dadofbud

Original Poster:

589 posts

209 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Given that the latest M4 with manual transmission have rev match facility I wondered if;

There is any demand for this to be retro fitted to E9 M3, and if so has anyone / company tried to do this this?

men3cac

39 posts

189 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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I imagine it would be incredibly difficult, and why would you want to?

Edit to add- sorry that wasn't very helpful, but interested as to why you ask

Edited by men3cac on Friday 27th November 16:50

gizard

2,249 posts

283 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Surely cheaper and more rewarding to teach your self to heel and toe wink I would imagine the cost would be astronomical....

pvogue

633 posts

114 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Try Evolve Motorsport, they may know

dadofbud

Original Poster:

589 posts

209 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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gizard said:
Surely cheaper and more rewarding to teach your self to heel and toe wink I would imagine the cost would be astronomical....
I'm assuming its a software modification to the ECU, because that's how they over came with the Nissan 370Z, if the rev limiter can be written out of the map by those cleaver people who can, I'm just think this might be possible, but there might not be a commercial demand for it to fund the R&D.

Its not a case of anyone teaching themselves to heel and toe, first its heel & toe under braking, the M3 is over assisted for braking, second the the brake pedal is a lot higher than the accelerator, so does not lend itself to braking and rolling the ball of your foot onto the accelerator to add a burst of rpm to aid the down shift as you would in a Porsche.

I have actually tried to use my heel to blip the throttle, and it hurts like hell and is totally unsuccessfull , If someone can tell me that they can blip the throttle with their heel whilst braking and down shifting I'd like to know how the manage it or tell me how best I can do it



w1ntermut3

99 posts

99 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Forgive me for being stupid, but don't you blip with the toe?

dadofbud

Original Poster:

589 posts

209 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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w1ntermut3 said:
Forgive me for being stupid, but don't you blip with the toe?
You are not stupid, you are just asking a question.

Specifically I'm talking about performance driving and the ability to carry as much speed as possible as close as possible before a corner and go through that corner in the right gear to accelerate out.

So its down shifting "whilst braking", whilst adding a burst of revs to stop the engine acting as a brake (engine braking) when you drop to a lower gear, because you want to select the right gear to exist corner just before you enter it, commonly known as fast in and fast out.

See the link with E46 M3, its shows the process at a reduced rate because of the poor weather.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhjWhS3IMdM

bennyboysvuk

3,491 posts

248 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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I can't imagine there's very much demand at all for this. For me, it's certainly a negative point for the 370Z and M3/M4 for having it.

I know what you mean though, it's way harder than it used to be in less heavily brake servo'd cars to modulate the brake pedal when close to lock up, whilst also dialling up another couple of thousand rpm at the same time. I'd still rather do the throttle blip myself though. smile

dadofbud

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589 posts

209 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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bennyboysvuk said:
I can't imagine there's very much demand at all for this. For me, it's certainly a negative point for the 370Z and M3/M4 for having it.

I know what you mean though, it's way harder than it used to be in less heavily brake servo'd cars to modulate the brake pedal when close to lock up, whilst also dialling up another couple of thousand rpm at the same time. I'd still rather do the throttle blip myself though. smile
I think its the case that if it were available people may take it, after all Nissan and BMW have given this option and they both have huge market research budgets, and the former is probably the most diverse car manufacturer for model range.

I totally agree with you "I'd still rather do the throttle blips myself" and I have not yet given up and gone the route of Ultimate pedal covers which reshape to bring them closer and I can see how to give a degree of adjustment to raise the cover to the throttle pedal, or I hope I will be able to when they eventually arrive from America.smile

GreatPretender

26,140 posts

214 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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dadofbud said:
I have actually tried to use my heel to blip the throttle, and it hurts like hell and is totally unsuccessfull , If someone can tell me that they can blip the throttle with their heel whilst braking and down shifting I'd like to know how the manage it or tell me how best I can do it
Err... that's how it's done. What am I missing? confused

Max Maxasson

410 posts

183 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Put half your foot on the brake pedal and half to cover the throttle...rock your foot as required to blip the throttle.
Thats how I do it with my DCT car anyway (when using the lower gear modes).

GreatPretender

26,140 posts

214 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Max Maxasson said:
Put half your foot on the brake pedal and half to cover the throttle...rock your foot as required to blip the throttle.
Thats how I do it with my DCT car anyway (when using the lower gear modes).
Why wouldn't you brake with your left foot in an automatic car?

Patrick Bateman

12,171 posts

174 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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dadofbud said:
I'm assuming its a software modification to the ECU, because that's how they over came with the Nissan 370Z, if the rev limiter can be written out of the map by those cleaver people who can, I'm just think this might be possible, but there might not be a commercial demand for it to fund the R&D.

Its not a case of anyone teaching themselves to heel and toe, first its heel & toe under braking, the M3 is over assisted for braking, second the the brake pedal is a lot higher than the accelerator, so does not lend itself to braking and rolling the ball of your foot onto the accelerator to add a burst of rpm to aid the down shift as you would in a Porsche.

I have actually tried to use my heel to blip the throttle, and it hurts like hell and is totally unsuccessfull , If someone can tell me that they can blip the throttle with their heel whilst braking and down shifting I'd like to know how the manage it or tell me how best I can do it
It's easy to forget how completely alien it feels when first trying it. Try it using mainly the ball of your foot on the brake.

It will feel completely alien until you've tried it for a while.