Quick question about a self-employed expense!

Quick question about a self-employed expense!

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Louisa911

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649 posts

190 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Hi there,

Got a really basic question that I'm struggling to find an answer for on Google!

Basically two weeks ago I set up as a sole trader, graphic design and illustration etc.

I currently have done only small transactions in my business bank account (the odd £50 for business cards etc,) other than that my actual balance is pretty much £0.00.

Tonight my partner is coming with me to purchase a Macbook Pro as a necessity for my business - he is going to pay for it with his bank card and his money.

I aim to pay him back £200 from my business account, direct debit, each month until paid for.

Question is, because this is a new machine and used 100% for my business, how do I record this as a machine I've purchased (or will be purchasing monthly) on my expenses... considering the transaction isn't actually coming from my account? Can I just put it as an expense anyway and keep the receipt? Shall I just record the monthly payments to my partner's bank as an expense with explanation alongside stating what it's for, as well as keeping the receipt?

Thanks!

BenjiA

300 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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That's more or less how it works.

You have an Asset (the computer) and a liability (to your partner) if you bought it on your credit card (or the business one) you would have a liability to the bank. Legally the transaction is the same.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Will you eventually pay your partner?

If you do, then you wil have bought and paid for the machine and therefore you can claim the full Capital Allowances available on it.

HOWEVER, if you do NOT end up paying your partner, then you technically haven't purchased the machine. OK, it's in use in your business but there would be no cost of purchase on which to base any claims.

sumo69

2,164 posts

220 months

Monday 30th November 2015
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It may not be pertinent for you, but getting your partner to buy it and having the receipt issued in his name would make any VAT recovery difficult should you choose/have to register in the future.

Apart from that, the replies above tell you what you need to know.

David

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Monday 30th November 2015
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Louisa911 said:
he is going to pay for it with his bank card and his money.
So it's HIS computer (unless he's making a gift to you, which he isn't). IMO for your business records you need a four point agreement with him which you both sign and sets out,

  • That you are buying the computer from him
  • The price you are going to pay (any VAT if relevant, probably not)
  • The timing of the instalments you are going to pay, and
  • Most importantly, when ownership passes to you. Straight away when the piece of paper is signed? Or later when the final instalment of £200 is paid?
It doesn't have to be anything fancy, just a short letter signed by both of you. Put a list of the instalments/dates at the bottom and get him to sign for receipt of each one as they are paid. Then if you get any questions from HMRC in 2 years time everything will be 100% clear.