Accidental poisoning someone

[Never you mind]

Reading an article on why you shouldn't feed your pet raw food I found this in the conclusion.

article said:

Apart from my conscience, I would also be concerned about the legal implications if a member of the public contracted a serious infection, or even died, as a result of increased exposure to risk from raw foods or pets fed raw foods after my recommendation.

She's implying that a pet feed on a raw diet could pass salmonella onto human. Is there a legal case here or is this just misinformed rubbish?

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Millions of cats are supplementing their diet with raw food, in the form of mice, rats, frogs, birds etc, on a daily basis. Mine certainly are.

Do cat owners have a higher incidence of salmonella?

[Jasandjules]

Billions of cats and dogs have survived until the last what, 40 years, without "pet food".

Now however there is a lot of money at stake, so the "oooh you and your pet will die if you fee raw" approach has kicked in.

Consider whether people ever handle raw food which they then cook to eat.... Same concept. You wash your hands, it really is not rocket science.

[Never you mind]

Jasandjules said:

Billions of cats and d
Dogs have survived until the last what, 40 years, without "pet food".

Now however there is a lot of money at stake, so the "oooh you and your pet will die if you fee raw" approach has kicked in.

Consider whether people ever handle raw food which they then cook to eat.... Same concept. You wash your hands, it really is not rocket science.

Its not a discussion about if feeding raw is good or not. I feed mine raw. I just want to know if there is any substance in the quoted sentence.

[DavidJG]

Hmmmm. Where does that leave me? I've been known to munch on some longhorn beef without bothering to cook it first.

Doesn't seem to have done me any harm (I think)

[numtumfutunch]

I have a dog and a wide circle of "dog friends" from walking the little fella

My dog friends come from all walks of life from bin men to brain surgeons - well almost

On the whole they are all good people if different in their life experiences and expectations

All apart from the hippy fruitcakes with the mad, uncontrollable dog they feed on "raw food" because "thats what wolves eat"

Fruitcakes
Raw food
Uncontrollable dog

Draw your own conclusions

COI: Our hound eats dog food supplemented by left overs and the odd bit of broccoli

[egor110]

numtumfutunch said:

I have a dog and a wide circle of "dog friends" from walking the little fella

My dog friends come from all walks of life from bin men to brain surgeons - well almost

On the whole they are all good people if different in their life experiences and expectations

All apart from the hippy fruitcakes with the mad, uncontrollable dog they feed on "raw food" because "thats what wolves eat"

Fruitcakes
Raw food
Uncontrollable dog

Draw your own conclusions

COI: Our hound eats dog food supplemented by left overs and the odd bit of broccoli

So your saying feeding raw food makes a uncontrollable dog?

I say lazy owners make a uncontrollable dog.

[numtumfutunch]

egor110 said:

So your saying feeding raw food makes a uncontrollable dog?

I say lazy owners make a uncontrollable dog.

The hippies feed their dog raw meat

The hippy dog is uncontrollable

I draw no further conclusion

[yellowjack]

Never you mind said:

Its not a discussion about if feeding raw is good or not. I feed mine raw. I just want to know if there is any substance in the quoted sentence.

Chef: "Voilà! Your steak tartare, monsieur. Bon Appétit!"

Diner: "Assassin!"

[egor110]

numtumfutunch said:

egor110 said:

So your saying feeding raw food makes a uncontrollable dog?

I say lazy owners make a uncontrollable dog.

The hippies feed their dog raw meat

The hippy dog is uncontrollable

I draw no further conclusion

So what in the raw food do you think leads to uncontrollable dogs?

Bearing in mind all the st additives have been removed unlike dry.

[soad]

Don't feed them too much sage, dried red kidney beans or green potatoes.
Wrong thread, sorry.

[pits]

egor110 said:

numtumfutunch said:

egor110 said:

So your saying feeding raw food makes a uncontrollable dog?

I say lazy owners make a uncontrollable dog.

The hippies feed their dog raw meat

The hippy dog is uncontrollable

I draw no further conclusion

So what in the raw food do you think leads to uncontrollable dogs?

Bearing in mind all the st additives have been removed unlike dry.

If that was the case our 3 dogs would be uncontrollable, and every other dog I know that eats raw. Really it appears you're drawing a conclusion on a dog because of the food it eats, not the dogs owners, don't be a jebend, blame the owners not the food.



As for the original question, I wouldn't have a clue it is certainly an interesting question to pose, I can't see it causing that much of a risk, unless you're a filthy person who doesn't clean up properly, but even then it would be somewhat hard to prove where the poisoning came from, how it came from you. We've been feeding our really controllable and friendly dogs on raw for well over a year, and apart from being controllable dogs, like they were on normal dog food, we've never had any issues with people getting ill.

I think the onus would probably end up on the supplier, in a way that is no different that a supplier of human food would be responsible for an E-Coli outbreak if their food was bad, ok there are less measures in place for the supply of raw dog food, but really a good supplier will take care with their food.

My biggest concern with the raw food is there are suppliers out there who don't label their dog food as dog food.

[anonymous-user]

Never you mind said:

salmonella onto human.

Salmonella is pretty much controlled in THE poultry industry, ring fencing affected flocks, but you will have eaten it as it still sold to the public, but not informed of the effected batches, but limited to what is processed and which retail customer accepts it.

Edited by The Spruce goose on Saturday 28th November 00:58

[otolith]

I took that sentence about legal liability to be from the perspective of a vet, not a dog owner.

[Jasandjules]

numtumfutunch said:

Draw your own conclusions

Sadly the only conclusion I can draw is about you..

I, and most of the dog owners I know, feed raw. Because that is healthiest for them. Simple enough. And it calms many dogs down as well, because it isn't full of additives and rather a lot more things...