V12V - Front light unit condensation

V12V - Front light unit condensation

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andymcmanus

Original Poster:

160 posts

151 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Hi All,

Great news is that I just picked up my first AML - a V12V ('10 plate). Super happy with it and very different from my C63.

Frustrating news is that when I got home I noticed that both front headlamp units have condensation build-up inside. Is this common on the Vantage? If its not, is there a Technical Bulletin I can reference with the garage? Any other thoughts and opinions would be greatly received.

Cheers, Andy

Jon39

12,811 posts

143 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Great choice. Am sure you will enjoy.

I have an MB as well as an Aston so not being unkind when I say, a C63 is great fun to drive, but nobody gives a second look because there are so many C-Class cars on the road. A Vantage seems to be liked by everyone, especially useful when waiting to pull out of a side turning.

The condensation issue is widespread. I was not getting it in the summer, but now it is back, even when no lights have been switched on. Mention it to your dealer. He might say 'they all do that', but I am sure you won't accept that as a reason for them doing nothing.

Some on here have tried silica gel bags, but I have not attempted that.



IanV12VR

2,749 posts

155 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Congratulations - pictures would be good yes

Agree with Jon. We have had a few Astons and the lights have all misted up. Some have drilled holes and put silica gel in but I haven't bothered. Never been a big issue for me.

Edited by IanV12VR on Saturday 28th November 21:50

CSK1

1,600 posts

124 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Yes same for me, especially after having washed the car. It doesn't bother me too much as it goes away quite quickly, we do have a milder climate though which certainly helps! Edited: I forgot to add: congratulations with your purchase and yes, do let us have some pictures when you get the chance.

Edited by CSK1 on Sunday 29th November 07:08

cayman-black

12,641 posts

216 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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Pictures please, lovely car enjoy it.

andy_mc

Original Poster:

160 posts

151 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Thanks for your feedback. Did I few searches on Google last night and it doesn't seem to be a unique issue - so I feel a little better about it.

Here is my first pic...


IanV12VR

2,749 posts

155 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Fantastic looking Aston - enjoy smile

CSK1

1,600 posts

124 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Looks lovely! What's the spec and colour? Interior pic?

northernmedia

1,988 posts

138 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Lovely colour, looks like the Top 555 car, good bunch to deal with.

andy_mc

Original Poster:

160 posts

151 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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I'm not quite up to speed on the spec options / names just yet ... but found this from the dealers sheet:

- B&O Stereo
- piano black facia
- lightweight seats

I believe the colour is <something> silver (other brands might call is gun metal)

I'll take some interior shots when is stops tipping down with rain.

CSK1

1,600 posts

124 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Pretty much the perfect spec. B&O and lightweight seats were for me a must have.

cayman-black

12,641 posts

216 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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northernmedia said:
Lovely colour, looks like the Top 555 car, good bunch to deal with.
I dont think so , theres was ceramic grey and i believe it is now at AM Reading.

CatalystV12V

715 posts

181 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Looks like my old car .. Enjoy!

chesby

476 posts

224 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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If this is the one that was at Stratstone Amersham I noticed the condensation a couple of weeks ago when I looked at the car.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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Congrats on the V12 - but with regards to your lights - keep a close eye on them - especially the LED side lights. At the first sign of trouble - even a slight flicker - i'd have it straight back whilst still under warranty.

I had this issue with my V8V and around 6 months after the warranty expired - both sets had condensation and both sets of sidelights failed within a week of each other which basically means an MOT failure and two new headlight units at over £1500 a pop. I suspect the condensation is the cause - getting into the LED driver circuit (which is apparently situated where the condensation run off would fall).

Ridiculous design and IMO a serious design flaw - one that AM unfortunately will not acknowledge.

Wicker Man

799 posts

243 months

Sunday 29th November 2015
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andymcmanus said:
..both front headlamp units have condensation build-up inside. Is this common on the Vantage? If its not, is there a Technical Bulletin I can reference with the garage?
Yes and yes, i.e. it does seem quite common and the service Bullitin is SB-17-0298.

It goes somthing like: Raise car, remove headlamp access panels, ventilate with dry, oil free air (2 bar max) untill clear plus 20 mins, then pop a couple of silica gel bags in and promptly refit the access panels.

I think this can only be a temporary treatment as the headlamps are evidendtly not fully sealed and will breath in fresh moist air each time they cycle from warm to cold.

I just live with this occasional condensation. A proper solution might be to drill a couple of small holes to enable convected ventilation, with some provision to prevent the ingress of dirt.

Flugplatz

1,952 posts

245 months

Monday 30th November 2015
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Moonhawk said:
Ridiculous design and IMO a serious design flaw - one that AM unfortunately will not acknowledge.
My V12VSR is booked in this week for new headlights because of water.
The car is 7 months old although I only bought it 3 weeks ago.
Upon collection the lights looked like they were missing a goldfish each so I contacted the supplying dealer and was told there are 3 fixes.

1. Put silica gel packs in headlight unit.

2. Drill back of units and connect tubes linked to the interior heater system.

3. Replace headlights with brand new units that dont steam up.

Having only had the car 24 hours at the point of that conversation I didn't waste any more time and contacted AM directly who instantly agreed to replace the units. smile

Grumpydev

265 posts

101 months

Monday 30th November 2015
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Flugplatz said:
My V12VSR is booked in this week for new headlights because of water.
The car is 7 months old although I only bought it 3 weeks ago.
Upon collection the lights looked like they were missing a goldfish each so I contacted the supplying dealer and was told there are 3 fixes.

1. Put silica gel packs in headlight unit.

2. Drill back of units and connect tubes linked to the interior heater system.

3. Replace headlights with brand new units that dont steam up.

Having only had the car 24 hours at the point of that conversation I didn't waste any more time and contacted AM directly who instantly agreed to replace the units. smile
AFAIK there is no revised part that solves the problem, the new ones might be better than the old ones but they will almost certainly steam up.

Phil74891

1,067 posts

133 months

Monday 30th November 2015
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Front lights on my old V8VS used to mist up constantly. The V12VS has had no front light misting issues in almost a year.

Not so at the back though. Nearside rear filled with water after a 50 mile rainy drive. I sent a pic to the dealer and they arranged an immediate warranty replacement.

Sounds like a random manufacturing fault to me, and rather than deal with the issue with the supplier, AM probably just stack up big supplies of them for the inevitable warranty replacements.

Aside from that I had a sticking filler cap and three erroneous error messages when I first picked the car up, and no other problems in the last 12 months and 6,500 miles or so.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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Flugplatz said:
3. Replace headlights with brand new units that dont steam up.
Take this one with a pinch of salt. I had my units replaced around 12 months ago, and they had begun to steam up again after a couple of weeks.

Unless AM have radically redesigned the headlight units in the last 12 months - any replacements will also steam up pretty quick.