Renting from insolvency practitioner (co. in administration)

Renting from insolvency practitioner (co. in administration)

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ModernAndy

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2,094 posts

135 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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I initially put this in speed, plod and the law but didn't get any response.

The situation is that I'm trying to rent a warehouse where the owner of the building is in administration (they have around £15m of property and this is a small part of their portfolio). The property has been vacant for a number of years and needs some structural work which has been agreed to and likewise I have agreed to a number of conditions including the price of the rent, the amount of deposit and the length of the lease.

The process is taking an incredibly long time and the landlord's solicitors have still to even be instructed as to how the lease is to be written despite heads of terms being agreed through their property agent at least 2 months ago. I suspect that there is a possibility that the insolvency practitioner is not particularly interested in renting the property due to the cost of works required (I don't understand the insolvency business well enough to speculate but I'd guess it's money they might have to put in) and I am determined to get in there by the end of the year as I have a lot of stock in storage containers that I can't catalogue and sell until we have a bigger space. It was looking hopeful that their solicitor would be given instruction and everything would be signed last week but this has been a damp squib.

I understand that you need a licence to be an insolvency practitioner and there are a number of rules as set out in various pieces of legislation such as the Insolvency Act of 1986. In a strictly legal sense, can any recourse be taken against the parties involved if they deliberately and unreasonably slow the process to prevent the company's assets from being bought/rented?

I understand that proving this is a completely different thing, that the fault may not be directly with the IP and it's not even a battle I want to get involved in, I just want some clarity on the issue.

I should also point out that the insolvency practitioner has sub contracted a company to act as landlord (company name is X Y asset management to give you an idea of the type of company it is), the asset management company have then also appointed a lettings agent (a fairly large one who deal with a great deal of commercial property- they've been great to deal with and I believe they've received the same lack of impetus that the landlord has shown to us)

As above, I'm not looking to make threats to any of the companies involved, I just want to understand the situation a bit better.

Chrisgr31

13,478 posts

255 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Afraid I know nothing about insolvency practitioners but I would assume their role is to maximise the returns and I would assume they are working on a sale of the portfolio.

If this nit is so important to you could you offer to buy it, or to do the structural works yourself, in return for a reduced rent or rent free to the same value? Dont forget to ensure the value of works not reflected in a rent review!

ModernAndy

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2,094 posts

135 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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I'll take that advice onboard. I have already offered to buy it but they want to sell all the properties in the group as a portfolio.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Have you contacted the IP directly? His role is to maximise returns for all creditors and part of that should be rent if he can't sell the properties. I suspect he's out of the loop and direct contact might get you a quicker result.

You might want to refer to the Enterprise Act 2002 which substantially modified an Administrator's role as set out under the IA you refer to. Admins are only supposed to last 12 months. Most don't but Court Approval is required for an extension.

tumble dryer

2,017 posts

127 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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However this goes, and it won't be anytime soon as your needs don't fit with theirs, I can't help thinking that you may be better served, in the long run, by looking elsewhere, and importantly, with the same 'concessions', monetarily or otherwise, being applied to those other options.

It's amazing what lies just outside the boundaries that you inadvertantly constrain yourself with.


Imagine for a moment that option 'A' wasn't available to you.


Just saying...

ModernAndy

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2,094 posts

135 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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tumble dryer said:
However this goes, and it won't be anytime soon as your needs don't fit with theirs, I can't help thinking that you may be better served, in the long run, by looking elsewhere, and importantly, with the same 'concessions', monetarily or otherwise, being applied to those other options.

It's amazing what lies just outside the boundaries that you inadvertantly constrain yourself with.


Imagine for a moment that option 'A' wasn't available to you.


Just saying...
I have been looking and may take up a space in another warehouse temporarily till this is sorted. There's been nothing on the market that we can find that anywhere near fits the bill.

ModernAndy

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2,094 posts

135 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Alpinestars said:
Have you contacted the IP directly? His role is to maximise returns for all creditors and part of that should be rent if he can't sell the properties. I suspect he's out of the loop and direct contact might get you a quicker result.

You might want to refer to the Enterprise Act 2002 which substantially modified an Administrator's role as set out under the IA you refer to. Admins are only supposed to last 12 months. Most don't but Court Approval is required for an extension.
It's been a while since I've been in direct contact but I'll give it a go. I had a quick browse of the enterprise act but couldn't find anything relevant to this case.