NHS trust not paying bank staff

[surveyor_101]

My partner has been offered bank work for nhs trust which she has previously worked for. They state with bank staff you have to work 70hrs or shift before they will pay you a penny. Is that lawful?

[The Surveyor]

Most salaried people have to work a month before they get paid, so I can't see it being unlawful asking somebody to work 2 weeks before they get paid.

Whether it's decent or not is a different matter, putting it in the context of NHS Trusts being asked to reduce their reliance on temporary nursing staff, and therefore the administration costs that goes with paying people for indeterminate hours, it sounds fair enough to me.

[QuickQuack]

If she signs the trust bank terms and conditions, and that's one of the conditions, then yes. Tell your partner to work through an agency instead of the internal bank. The rates are usually higher and she wouldn't need to put up with this sort of NHS tttery. She would be paid after she completed the shift.

Regarding working for 2 weeks before payment, it may not be two weeks, it could be considerably longer than that depending on how many bank shifts the OP's partner does. It could be two weeks, six weeks, or it could be six months. I would say that the reasonable way to do it is that the bank payment appears in the next payslip due. That's what used to happen when I did internal locums.

[chriscpritchard]

When I do bank shifts, no matter how many hours I work, I get paid the next payday after the payroll cutoff (IE, if I work in june before the june cutoff I get paid in July)

[surveyor_101]

The Surveyor said:

Most salaried people have to work a month before they get paid, so I can't see it being unlawful asking somebody to work 2 weeks before they get paid.

Whether it's decent or not is a different matter, putting it in the context of NHS Trusts being asked to reduce their reliance on temporary nursing staff, and therefore the administration costs that goes with paying people for indeterminate hours, it sounds fair enough to me.

The role she has taken is not effected but she went to an induction day and all the hca's were told this.

One was given 5 hrs a a week and didn't look best pleased.

[Chrisgr31]

surv It cant be right that one has to wait 5 months to be paideyor_101 said:

The role she has taken is not effected but she went to an induction day and all the hca's were told this.

One was given 5 hrs a a week and didn't look best pleased.

If she doesnt get paid that will be 18 weeks before she gets paid, and that will probably depend on payroll run too. It cant be right that they have to wait almost 5 months to be paid.

[surveyor_101]

Chrisgr31 said:

If she doesnt get paid that will be 18 weeks before she gets paid, and that will probably depend on payroll run too. It cant be right that they have to wait almost 5 months to be paid.

They offered her more hours in the first two weeks but she is part time college.

Seems crazy you have to do 70 hours but it's non contract causal hoŵever they are offering more hours to get you through but my missus wants to do 8-16 hrs a week by her role is not in this only hca's which seems unfair. They said if it take you 6 months to rack up 70 hrs so be it but we don't pay a been till you do your 70 hrs.

Some people there had waited 3 months to get on to find this. No wonder the are over reliant on agency staff. All the women who run the bank staff unit work odd hours and days. They would send an email saying come in tomorrow which my missus couldn't get childcare for and then she would ring email to find that person wasn't working for two days. Bloody barmey so glad I don't work in public sector run by idiots who can't manage a budget,

[mph1977]

i wonder if this has something to do with the current rules over care training etc ...

[snobetter]

Our local hospital requires new bank staff to work 5 shifts before they get any pay (fairly sure 5, certainly thereabouts), this is done to stop the apparently not insignificant number of people coming through getting all the free training and then not doing any actual shifts.