steering probs

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wiganhsv

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148 posts

122 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Hiya guys, today I was driving and experienced a problems and was curious if any one ever had this. I went to work this morning and for the first time heard a slight knocking noise when I turned it full lock to the left or right. It soon went away, however I noticed that when I got to familiar corners I had to put more lock into the turns than normal. The steering didn’t feel as “tight” and it felt as if there was a delay when I turned the wheel. When I came home, the ESP warning came on saying it was off and was coming off the motorway, when I turned I felt as if the car was going to go straight on before it started to turn. The car settled down a bit later on and when I turned the engine on and off the ESP warning didn’t come on. Does anyone have any thought?

Cheers
Iain

mik_ok

1,568 posts

241 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Weird. Other than the knocking...tyre pressures? Someone been messing around with your fronts?

Otherwise - rack loose ?

wiganhsv

Original Poster:

148 posts

122 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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im going to try and get it on a ramp tomorrow and see is up

mik_ok

1,568 posts

241 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Good plan.

Thinking again it could be anything that would cause a wheel to steer when it wasn't supposed to. Track rod, control arms etc.

ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Does it brake in a straight line? Many years ago, I had similar on an old car, and it was a loose ARB, allowing one or other wheels to move back and forth in the arch.

j666eds

642 posts

149 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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I had weird knocking noises like that a few years ago, turned out my steering rack was loose. Tightened it up and was fine.

Yanayaya

912 posts

184 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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I've had steering problems recently too. In the end I opted to replace my entire rack with a pedders quick rack however the symptoms that prompted that change were similar to yours. Steering didn't feel tight, knocking, car seemed to stray around a lot. It turned out that it was steering arms, one of them had worn out which is not a common problem but it does happen. You can buy steering arm direct from Vaux and Monkfish however they will tell you that they are staked and can be troublesome to remove which is true. This is why I went for the entire rack and killed two birds with one stone giving myself a quicker turning ratio at the same time.

Here is a photo of the steering arm attached to the rack, they should be greased up, tight and NOT moving around. As you can see mine was dirty, without grease and worn.


I've included this video too so you can see what it was doing, this bit of movement translated into about 2-3" of play at the steering wheel end so it felt like the car wasn't going to turn sometimes.

Video of worn arm

Whilst this may not be your problem I thought it best mentioning.

BlueDevil

414 posts

204 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Just had my steering rack replaced last week due to similar issues. Vague steering and knocking occasionally on lock, it also rattled when going over bumps.

Had no issues since steering is tight and precise

wiganhsv

Original Poster:

148 posts

122 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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ive had it up on a ramp this morning and ive been told that the front of the car is fine however at the rear there is a lot of play in my hub assembly bush, so going to get a new one and see if that sorts it out, if not it will have to try a new steering rack

preciousmetal

3,372 posts

176 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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wiganhsv said:
ive had it up on a ramp this morning and ive been told that the front of the car is fine however at the rear there is a lot of play in my hub assembly bush, so going to get a new one and see if that sorts it out, if not it will have to try a new steering rack
Ian - you might want to check the parts fitted and availability as yours is not std VXR8 set up - I have the full list of mods done when I had it from David who owned it and did the upgrades - did the following :

"Upgraded Transmission with clutch packs
upgraded hubs, shafts from PATC in the states
Pedders rear bushes & G Force anti hop driveshaft"

Roger at MF might know more to help with parts

SteveMJ

919 posts

196 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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The top bearing (the part visible from inside the engine bay above the wheel) was knackered on mine a couple of years back - was like braking on cobbles before it was replaced.

wiganhsv

Original Poster:

148 posts

122 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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preciousmetal said:
Ian - you might want to check the parts fitted and availability as yours is not std VXR8 set up - I have the full list of mods done when I had it from David who owned it and did the upgrades - did the following :

"Upgraded Transmission with clutch packs
upgraded hubs, shafts from PATC in the states
Pedders rear bushes & G Force anti hop driveshaft"

Roger at MF might know more to help with parts
cool thank you

wiganhsv

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148 posts

122 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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right think its sorted, i order a part from monkfish, it was a rear bush something or other (sorry not very mechanically minded) as there was a problem at the rear, and 2 bolts where loose with the steering rack, with the new part replaced at the back and the bolts tightened, she is back to her old self.

jelevents

489 posts

149 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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Talking of steering problems, checked mine today as I've had an intermittent wheel wobble and could hear a knocking when moving steering slightly, so up on the axle stands this morning and found o/s track rod end had some play in it and car is booked in for mot in 2 weeks yikes so mad dash to the fish just made it in time, massive thanks to the fishy team for stocking all the essentials., changed both sides, no play, no wobble.
Just need to get tracking done now. thumbup

wiganhsv

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148 posts

122 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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yer i got my tracking done today, glad its all working all again