VAG UK sales, Nov 15

[anonymous-user]

Had a chance to look at the SMMT data

http://www.smmt.co.uk/2015/12/new-car-registration...

Nov 15 sales ve Nov 14

Overall market is 178,876 vs 172,327

units (market share %)

Audi 11,083 (6.2) vs 11,594 (6.73)
Seat 2,711 (1.52) vs 3,559 (2.07)
Skoda 4,815 (2.69) vs 5,409 (3.14)
VW 12,958 (7.24) vs 16,196 (9.4)

31,567 (17.6) vs 36,758 (21.3)

YTD 2015 vs YTD 2014

Overall market is 2,453,426 vs 2,310,237

units (market share %)

Audi 157,565 (6.42) vs 150,974 (6.54)
Seat 45,569 (1.86) vs 49,620 (2.15)
Skoda 69,883 (2.85) vs 70,873 (3.07)
VW 209,369 (8.53) vs 200,353 (8.67)

482,386 (19.66) vs 471,820 (20.42)

[grumpynuts]

That tells me that VW group sales are starting to tank, despite what some muppets on here are saying. They've been believing what VW dealers have been telling them that sales haven't been affected, clearly they have. Seriously though, this is not good news for VW group or their dealers, nor for every member of staff who works in their network. They shouldn't have cheated should they!!

[Axionknight]

Their year to date still looks healthy but it's certainly taken a drop - I'd be interested to see how that looks come new registration time in March, if it's still on a downer after that I'd expect a few people at VW HQ to be pretty worried.

[Leptons]

Not exactly drastically different is it?

[Condi]

And yet Citron (?) or Renault had the greatest fall in new registrations. So explain that, anyone who is going to draw conclusions from these numbers....




In reality, one month on its own, or even 1 quarter on its own, is not a good indicator of a change in buyer attitudes. Audi for example sold more cars than it did last year in the month.

[Meridius]

Id imagine that the majority of the population has no idea that Volkswagens/Audis/Seats/Skodas are all but the same bits underneath and so somebody put off by the recent VW scandal might just go and buy an Audi instead.

[Blayney]

Meridius said:

Id imagine that the majority of the population has no idea that Volkswagens/Audis/Seats/Skodas are all but the same bits underneath and so somebody put off by the recent VW scandal might just go and buy an Audi instead.

Very true, I've had plenty of people look at me confused when I try to explain this.

[berlintaxi]

grumpynuts said:

That tells me that VW group sales are starting to tank, despite what some muppets on here are saying. They've been believing what VW dealers have been telling them that sales haven't been affected, clearly they have. Seriously though, this is not good news for VW group or their dealers, nor for every member of staff who works in their network. They shouldn't have cheated should they!!

Drama queen.

[GroundEffect]

Good. Deserved.

[MrsFallon]

Condi said:

And yet Citron (?) or Renault had the greatest fall in new registrations. So explain that, anyone who is going to draw conclusions from these numbers....




In reality, one month on its own, or even 1 quarter on its own, is not a good indicator of a change in buyer attitudes. Audi for example sold more cars than it did last year in the month.

Citroen's downturn is mainly because DS has now been separated as a brand.

[andrewparker]

grumpynuts said:

That tells me that VW group sales are starting to tank, despite what some muppets on here are saying. They've been believing what VW dealers have been telling them that sales haven't been affected, clearly they have. Seriously though, this is not good news for VW group or their dealers, nor for every member of staff who works in their network. They shouldn't have cheated should they!!

Well, at least you're doing your username justice. Muppets... nice.

[curlie467]

Wow

[Blakewater]

Meridius said:

Id imagine that the majority of the population has no idea that Volkswagens/Audis/Seats/Skodas are all but the same bits underneath and so somebody put off by the recent VW scandal might just go and buy an Audi instead.

Someone on here said he knows someone who did just that. Cancelled his Volkswagen Golf order in outrage, went to the Audi dealership nextdoor and ordered an A3 instead.

[Leptons]

MrsFallon said:

Citroen's downturn is mainly because DS has now been separated as a brand.

Is that a fact? Why on earth have they done that?

[northwest monkey]

Leptons said:

MrsFallon said:

Citroen's downturn is mainly because DS has now been separated as a brand.

Is that a fact? Why on earth have they done that?

I think it's so Citroen is the mainstream stuff, and DS is the "posher" bit.

[lord trumpton]

GroundEffect said:

Good. Deserved.

Yeah but VW didn't know; it was a group of rouge Engineers apparently

[Hamish Finn]

lord trumpton said:

Yeah but VW didn't know; it was a group of rouge Engineers apparently

I bet they had red faces!