Apostrophe Plurals

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MX51ROD

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2,750 posts

148 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Grandson's home work

Make these nouns plural

The hen's beak
The goose's head
The man’s jacket
The sheep's nose

To my mind the three examples given to work on , are ambiguous
The hen's( posessive) can be made plural thus, hens’ but the beak can be either plural , beaks’ or possessive beak’s
Geese’s heads’/head’s
And so on

This is for an 8 year old
(and a 60 something smile )


Edited by MX51ROD on Sunday 7th February 16:20

bobthepsycho

203 posts

236 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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MX51ROD said:
The hen's beak
The goose's head
The man’s jacket
The sheep's nose
The hens' beaks
The geese's heads
The men's jackets
The sheep's noses

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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"The man's jackets"

is valid

ianrb

1,536 posts

141 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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bobthepsycho said:
MX51ROD said:
The hen's beak
The goose's head
The man’s jacket
The sheep's nose
The hens' beaks
The geese's heads
The men's jackets
The sheep's noses
Should it not be "The sheeps' noses"?



anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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ianrb said:
Should it not be "The sheeps' noses"?
No: the plural of sheep is sheep. Not sheeps.

ianrb

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141 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Greg66 said:
ianrb said:
Should it not be "The sheeps' noses"?
No: the plural of sheep is sheep. Not sheeps.
Oddly I was aware of that.

To illustrate the point I am trying to make lets change it to "The sheep's legs", is that one or more sheep? Using "The sheeps' legs" provides that additional information.




MX51ROD

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Sunday 7th February 2016
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Now you can see my confusion
My Daughter is on Faceache/ Twitterbook at the moment , and even teachers can’t agree the correct solution to the homework .
So what chance an 8 year old ,


MX51ROD

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Sunday 7th February 2016
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Double post

Edited by MX51ROD on Sunday 7th February 19:39

MX51ROD

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double post

Edited by MX51ROD on Sunday 7th February 19:40

MX51ROD

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Quad post frown

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otherman

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166 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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You can say that again

marshalla

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202 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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ianrb said:
Oddly I was aware of that.

To illustrate the point I am trying to make lets change it to "The sheep's legs", is that one or more sheep? Using "The sheeps' legs" provides that additional information.
Not to anyone who knows English.

ianrb

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141 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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marshalla said:
ianrb said:
Oddly I was aware of that.

To illustrate the point I am trying to make lets change it to "The sheep's legs", is that one or more sheep? Using "The sheeps' legs" provides that additional information.
Not to anyone who knows English.
Go on then, explain yourself. If you can.

I'll give you a hint. The rules of grammar don't exist to allow pedants to score point, rather they exist to help people convey information, but sometimes, as illustrated above, exceptions are needed.

I would hope that the original lesson being discussed was to help the children think about how to apply some of the rules of grammar rather than forcing them into a rigid structure which prevents them saying what they want or need to say. I suppose you were of school on that particular day.



Magic919

14,126 posts

202 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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ianrb said:
I suppose you were of school on that particular day.
This should be interesting.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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ianrb said:
Oddly I was aware of that.

To illustrate the point I am trying to make lets change it to "The sheep's legs", is that one or more sheep? Using "The sheeps' legs" provides that additional information.
Absent any context, that would be a puzzle. But it would never lack context, so working out whether there was more than one sheep would come from context.