Condition of underside ok for age/price?

Condition of underside ok for age/price?

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Emberrs

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8 posts

3 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Hi all,

Ive been looking for a honda accord mk7 with the k24 and a manual box for a while now as they are very rare with the engine and gearbox combo. I am going to view a Type S trim 2005 example soon up for £4k which has FSH and looks generally tidy with an advisory free MOT as of today. In the ad the seller mentioned they would Lanoguard the underside and i asked if i could get a video of the underside and any noteable rust.

As requested ive just had this underbody video from the seller. It looks a bit wet still from the Lanoguard and I think there is a slight red "glow" on the right side of the car looks like a reflection of something on the ground of the garage, Maybe a tool cart or creeper.

The only other notable rust is on the drivers rear arch, i intend to get this sorted as soon as possible if i get the car but just want to make sure its not too bad.

But considering all this does it look OK in terms of rust and fair for the asking price? i of course intend to give it a good inspection when i view the car but just wanted some second opinions before i take the time to view as its quite far away from me.

Thanks

Underside Video - imgur.com/a/fAriVgv
Rear Drivers arch rust - imgur.com/a/NpJP9H0

twokcc

837 posts

178 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Complete guess - is it for sale in Scotland?

Yellowfez

299 posts

16 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Jap cars are terrible rust buckets, so for that fact this one really isn’t so bad for an old Honda for sure

twokcc

837 posts

178 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Complete guess - is it for sale in Scotland?

steveo3002

10,554 posts

175 months

Sunday 3rd March
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find a cleaner one , that arch will cost alot to fix properly

sam.rog

778 posts

79 months

Sunday 3rd March
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This one looks tidy.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024022970...

Not affiliated with the seller in any way.

griffter

3,992 posts

256 months

Sunday 3rd March
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The bit you asked about:

I can’t see much at all on my phone screen, and to be honest a cursory walk under the vehicle isn’t going to show you much anyway. Cars tend to rust in awkward, inaccessible places where there are seams in the metal and where crud and water collects. So around mounting points, lower sections of wheel arches etc. The surface condition of suspension components (which can be relatively easily replaced) and flat, exposed areas of floor/underside doesn’t tell you much. Even less when it’s dripping in sheep oil.
Has the seller Lanoguarded it because they’re a nice guy and proud of their car, or to make it look good in a walk around video?…

The bit you didn’t ask about:

These are lovely cars and as you say, very rare these days. I’ve seen a saloon with 50k miles sell for around £7k (after 4 or 5 weeks) and a tourer with 75k miles sell for £3.5k). That one was underpriced and sold in a few days. Most of these have moon mileage so buy with care. The one you’re viewing has aftermarket wheels.

Good luck!

Emberrs

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8 posts

3 months

Sunday 3rd March
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sam.rog said:
This one looks tidy.
autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402297075050

Not affiliated with the seller in any way.
I think i saw that one a day ago, but looking now it seems to be sold unfortunately

Emberrs

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3 months

Sunday 3rd March
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twokcc said:
Complete guess - is it for sale in Scotland?
No, seller is based near southampton (near the sea i suppose)

Emberrs

Original Poster:

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3 months

Sunday 3rd March
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steveo3002 said:
find a cleaner one , that arch will cost alot to fix properly
Having a fair bit of difficulty to be fair! these cars are gold dust now

Emberrs

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Sunday 3rd March
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Yellowfez said:
Jap cars are terrible rust buckets, so for that fact this one really isn’t so bad for an old Honda for sure
I have a mk3.5 mx5 so i am aware of japanese cars tendancy to rust unfortunately, i know these accords are great and the k24 is a great engine so on the fence to be honest!

Emberrs

Original Poster:

8 posts

3 months

Sunday 3rd March
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griffter said:
The bit you asked about:

I can’t see much at all on my phone screen, and to be honest a cursory walk under the vehicle isn’t going to show you much anyway. Cars tend to rust in awkward, inaccessible places where there are seams in the metal and where crud and water collects. So around mounting points, lower sections of wheel arches etc. The surface condition of suspension components (which can be relatively easily replaced) and flat, exposed areas of floor/underside doesn’t tell you much. Even less when it’s dripping in sheep oil.
Has the seller Lanoguarded it because they’re a nice guy and proud of their car, or to make it look good in a walk around video?…

The bit you didn’t ask about:

These are lovely cars and as you say, very rare these days. I’ve seen a saloon with 50k miles sell for around £7k (after 4 or 5 weeks) and a tourer with 75k miles sell for £3.5k). That one was underpriced and sold in a few days. Most of these have moon mileage so buy with care. The one you’re viewing has aftermarket wheels.

Good luck!
Thanks, yeah this one has 120k which is a touch higher than id like but im not worried about the engine so much as the chassis/sills etc. I am aware of the aftermarket wheels. On the fence about this one if im being honest, i know i will struggle to find another k24 manual estate soon but the rust could be an issue.

Snow and Rocks

1,952 posts

28 months

Sunday 3rd March
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While Japanese cars do eventually rust, it's worth bearing in mind just how old these are now.

Most of their contemporaries are long scrapped by the time they're 20 years old - it's only the mechanical strength of the Japanese stuff that allows it to routinely get to this age without being especially well treated.

Our 2003 Accord Tourer has no apparent bodywork rust and only minor surface rust underneath despite it living outside and being used year round in darkest Aberdeenshire where they salt the roads for 7 months of the year.

OutInTheShed

7,915 posts

27 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Emberrs said:
Having a fair bit of difficulty to be fair! these cars are gold dust now
A quick shufty at howmanyleft suggests rustdust may be more accurate.

Put the reg no into the MOT history check, see if there are any advisories for corrosion.
Personally, I wouldn't find one a very attractive propositon, my boss had one new back in 05 or so, I thought my ancient Audi was a far better car at the time.
it's thirsty, expensive to tax and nothing special.

The only way it makes sense is to find a freak one with no rust, which you might get several years out of?

Belle427

9,075 posts

234 months

Sunday 3rd March
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A seller offering to Lanoguard it would send alarm bells ringing very loudly to me.
Its supposed to be a ste product too.

steveo3002

10,554 posts

175 months

Sunday 3rd March
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under coatings and the like have their place , but a lanogaurd'd rusty car isnt equal to a clean one

with the wheel arch being like that the underside is probably well on its way

EVOTECH3BELL

789 posts

25 months

Sunday 3rd March
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A K24 Manual Type S with no rust is a bit of a unicorn car.

Mines got 72k on and the underside is mostly minty fresh but one arch has still gone.

I know the only previous owner and he washed it week in week out and cared for it fastidiously.






twokcc

837 posts

178 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Like you say very hard to find without 150k miles plus and manual but this one may be Ok
87k miles 1 owner £4295 it s a petrol so assume is engine your looking for

https://www.theaa.com/used-cars/cardetails/73-8465...



Edited by twokcc on Sunday 3rd March 19:29

EVOTECH3BELL

789 posts

25 months

Sunday 3rd March
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twokcc said:
Like you say very hard to find without 150k miles plus and manual but this one may be Ok
87k miles 1 owner £4295 it s a petrol so assume is engine your looking for

https://www.theaa.com/used-cars/cardetails/73-8465...



Edited by twokcc on Sunday 3rd March 19:29
Wrong engine. Wrong spec.

Type S is a K24 2.4L Vtec.
You could get the executive spec in a K24 but they are mostly Autos.

I know of an imported K24 tourer but again...auto not manual.