Speed Awareness Course
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Mrs B has no previous offence(s) until a recent pull for 36 in a 30. SAC has been offered. If she takes the points and pays the £100 but then subsequently re-offends will she then be open to the same offer - i.e. a SAC rather than penalty/points?
Edited by Beetnik on Tuesday 12th March 23:50
I would do (and have done) the SAC, rather than take the points. There is the offer for a SAC now, things may change in the future, plus if caught speeding again, it maybe in an area that does not offer SACs (I believe Scotland are the only one), then 6 points will be the total. Also insurance companies don’t ask or care about SACs, but they do about points.
Thinking is it's unlikely to happen again (based on past record) so with say a 5% loading on insurance premium + cost of fine it's basically 5 minutes admin and £200 vs £100 and a morning/afternoon out of a busy schedule. But if it does then the option of a course may still be available.
I suspect she'll go for the course but useful to know how it might pan out otherwise.
I suspect she'll go for the course but useful to know how it might pan out otherwise.
Beetnik said:
Thinking is it's unlikely to happen again (based on past record) so with say a 5% loading on insurance premium + cost of fine it's basically 5 minutes admin and £200 vs £100 and a morning/afternoon out of a busy schedule. But if it does then the option of a course may still be available.
I suspect she'll go for the course but useful to know how it might pan out otherwise.
You can do the SAC over Zoom, and I think - but it may depend on the insurance company - they're not too bothered about it.I suspect she'll go for the course but useful to know how it might pan out otherwise.
Seems daft to get 3 points, which you have to declare, if you can avoid them.
BertBert said:
But it's not completely guaranteed that even offences within the limits for SACs will actually be offered them. So I can see no benefit to not doing it unless it's not feasible (logistics etc).
Agreed, can't think of any reason to take 3 points instead of a course if offered, next time you might be 1 mph over the threshold Beetnik said:
Thinking is it's unlikely to happen again (based on past record) so with say a 5% loading on insurance premium + cost of fine it's basically 5 minutes admin and £200 vs £100 and a morning/afternoon out of a busy schedule. But if it does then the option of a course may still be available.
I suspect she'll go for the course but useful to know how it might pan out otherwise.
I'd do admin, save SAC option, valuable time lost to course and can learn own lessons.I suspect she'll go for the course but useful to know how it might pan out otherwise.
If I have to sit through a long SAC, I will make sure it counts, likely on NSL/DC/MW at a speed close to end of SAC threshold, not for a few mph or a 30 sign far from anyone or anything, else it would boil my blood too much.
P.S. Others may do SAC, and if speeding, push speeds up into the FPN threshold to really earn the points, but then where is the incentive to keep any rare incidence of speeding low on speedo.
Edited by NFT on Monday 11th March 22:50
GolfDragon said:
I don’t know if this is an urban myth but I heard if you get caught in a different locality and you’ve already done a speed awareness course (but in a different locality to the 2nd offence) you can still get offered another speed awareness course.
Was a guy on here that said he did it, apparently form asked if he recalled doing another SAC and he said no, something like that.NFT said:
If I have to sit through a long SAC, I will make sure it counts, likely on NSL/DC/MW at a speed close to end of SAC threshold, not for a few mph or a 30 sign far from anyone or anything, else it would boil my blood too much.
What a ridiculous way of looking at it. Your posting gets more bizarre with each oneEdited by NFT on Monday 11th March 22:48
martinbiz said:
What a ridiculous way of looking at it. Your posting gets more bizarre with each one
I may give a different value to my "time alive" than others....Taking points Is incentive for me not to speed, but I won't accept half a day of my valuable "life time" being lost for just 1mph or safely coasting down past a sign far from anything, it needs to be at least reasonably unsafe, and honestly deserving of punishment, not an enrolment excuse;
To me, the loss of "limited life" time should be punishment for actual wrongdoing, not result of someone's idealistic "educate them all" enrolment model under guise it's because "safety" was at risk.
What I meant: If I choose to "lose" half a day of my life, it will be for genuinely breaking from the norm, with a reasonably high excess, or at least genuinely offensive to do so.
NFT said:
I may give a different value to my "time alive" than others....
Taking points Is incentive for me not to speed, but I won't accept half a day of my valuable "life time" being lost for just 1mph or safely coasting down past a sign far from anything, it needs to be at least reasonably unsafe
Yep, your valuable "life time" is much better spent arguing about nothing over the Internet...Taking points Is incentive for me not to speed, but I won't accept half a day of my valuable "life time" being lost for just 1mph or safely coasting down past a sign far from anything, it needs to be at least reasonably unsafe
Alex@POD said:
NFT said:
I may give a different value to my "time alive" than others....
Taking points Is incentive for me not to speed, but I won't accept half a day of my valuable "life time" being lost for just 1mph or safely coasting down past a sign far from anything, it needs to be at least reasonably unsafe
Yep, your valuable "life time" is much better spent arguing about nothing over the Internet...Taking points Is incentive for me not to speed, but I won't accept half a day of my valuable "life time" being lost for just 1mph or safely coasting down past a sign far from anything, it needs to be at least reasonably unsafe
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