Can anyone identify these medals?
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I'm still searching the rest of the medals but I believe they are all German issued
Also Iron Cross 2ns class from 1870
Prussian Military Merit Cross
Hope the above helps
If any of it is incorrect Im sure someone will correct
Also Iron Cross 2ns class from 1870
Prussian Military Merit Cross
Hope the above helps
If any of it is incorrect Im sure someone will correctEdited by Saleen836 on Monday 22 April 22:08
Edited by Saleen836 on Monday 22 April 22:09
Saleen836 said:
The medal on the left is a Germany award, Iron Cross 2nd class, the medal on the right is a WW1 Furg Dagerland 1914 German Veterans Honour Medal (from what I can find)
Saleen is right on both counts: left is a WW1 Iron Cross 2nd Class - worth around £70-100 (can be had to less but the condition and original ribbon are positives - if you find the certificate it was issued for it will easily double in value to the collectors market). Right is the Furg Dagerland veterans medal - they generally sell for about £60-£80 (yours is probably worth a little more as although the medal is quite tarnished and blackened now the original ribbon and sword wreath add value - even if it does look a little damaged).Have you got a reverse side image for the Prussian medal? there are a few variants that have that frontage with the reverse describing what it is; for example the 'Merit Cross for War Aid' which says 'FUR KRIEGS HILFSDIENST' or indeed the 'Prussian Military Merit Cross' which has 'KRIEGS VERDIENST'.
Either way; collectors pay more for 'complete' sets awarded to one individuals.
Adenauer said:
Cool, we‘re clearing out my Dad’s house (very slowly) and these were on a shelf. My grandfather was around during the first and Second World War, so maybe they were his.
My mum was German so please don’t hold that against me ??
Hopefully no one is that daft at this distance from the war. I have the iron cross of a german paratrooper that my old man made friends with in the 1950s; he had been in North Africa, Stalingrad, was captured in France and shipped via the UK to a POW camp in the US. My mum was German so please don’t hold that against me ??
The 1870 iron cross 2nd class is worth a LOT more as there were a lot less of them issued (around 45k if the 1870 to the 5.5million for the 1914 version). Without ribbon you can be looking anything upwards of £300 - if you have the award certificate you are easily looking at £1,500+
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DirtyHarley said:
Saleen is right on both counts: left is a WW1 Iron Cross 2nd Class - worth around £70-100 (can be had to less but the condition and original ribbon are positives - if you find the certificate it was issued for it will easily double in value to the collectors market). Right is the Furg Dagerland veterans medal - they generally sell for about £60-£80 (yours is probably worth a little more as although the medal is quite tarnished and blackened now the original ribbon and sword wreath add value - even if it does look a little damaged).
Have you got a reverse side image for the Prussian medal? there are a few variants that have that frontage with the reverse describing what it is; for example the 'Merit Cross for War Aid' which says 'FUR KRIEGS HILFSDIENST' or indeed the 'Prussian Military Merit Cross' which has 'KRIEGS VERDIENST'.
Either way; collectors pay more for 'complete' sets awarded to one individuals.
This is the back.Have you got a reverse side image for the Prussian medal? there are a few variants that have that frontage with the reverse describing what it is; for example the 'Merit Cross for War Aid' which says 'FUR KRIEGS HILFSDIENST' or indeed the 'Prussian Military Merit Cross' which has 'KRIEGS VERDIENST'.
Either way; collectors pay more for 'complete' sets awarded to one individuals.
Found this as well.
Jaska said:
We found a few German medals and money when my great grandad passed away - he was as British as it gets so certain he 'acquired' them but if you looked at his medal collection you'd have had no idea which side of the war he was on!!
Yeah, bit like my Dad who was born in Edinburgh, funny the things we’re finding on the outer edges of his bookcases!Hi,
I would recommend going onto www.warrelics.eu as there are a lot of knowledgeable people on there. I wouldn't mention values immediately.
I would also include the jacket, as from the single photo there is every possibility that if it was originally worn as part of a uniform, then it would be potentially of more value than the medals. You would need to show detailed photos of the labels, lining and stitching etc.
I hope this is of help.
I would recommend going onto www.warrelics.eu as there are a lot of knowledgeable people on there. I wouldn't mention values immediately.
I would also include the jacket, as from the single photo there is every possibility that if it was originally worn as part of a uniform, then it would be potentially of more value than the medals. You would need to show detailed photos of the labels, lining and stitching etc.
I hope this is of help.
mkjess123 said:
Hi,
I would recommend going onto www.warrelics.eu as there are a lot of knowledgeable people on there. I wouldn't mention values immediately.
I would also include the jacket, as from the single photo there is every possibility that if it was originally worn as part of a uniform, then it would be potentially of more value than the medals. You would need to show detailed photos of the labels, lining and stitching etc.
I hope this is of help.
Thanks for that, the values are secondary at the moment, it's more what the medals might have been awarded for that interests me, unless we're talking miwwions, obviously, then the sentimental value goes out the window. I would recommend going onto www.warrelics.eu as there are a lot of knowledgeable people on there. I wouldn't mention values immediately.
I would also include the jacket, as from the single photo there is every possibility that if it was originally worn as part of a uniform, then it would be potentially of more value than the medals. You would need to show detailed photos of the labels, lining and stitching etc.
I hope this is of help.
Adenauer said:
1st one looks like a Prussian Landwehr 20 Year Long Service Medal (I think it is the officer's grade one rather than enlisted, but my ww1 is less robust than my ww2 onwards) - I think its worth about £502nd one is a 1813 'war of liberation' Iron Cross 2nd Class worth about £150 - there were about 17k of them issued
These are looking like they are almost certainly a collection rather than one individuals awards though which is a shame; a lot of colelctors pay for the 'story' so to speak.
The leather jacket is very interesting (and cool!) - something about it looks very familiar, but I can't put my finger on it! I'm thinking possibly a WW2 feldgendarmerie officers coat but I'm not sure and there are definitely way more knowledgable people than I around on the net
Adenauer said:
dontlookdown said:
Never mind the medals, that long leather coat is amazing. Proper Red Baron attire.
Weighs about 10kg, it's pretty cool.I wore it once as a stupid teenager and goose stepped around at a party in a small German village until they threw me out.
What you really need is a 30s Mercedes SLK to drive whilst wearing it.
Adenauer said:
dontlookdown said:
Never mind the medals, that long leather coat is amazing. Proper Red Baron attire.
Weighs about 10kg, it's pretty cool.I wore it once as a stupid teenager and goose stepped around at a party in a small German village until they threw me out.
bloody nutterI thought of Lord Flashheart when I saw it…. “Woof!”
DirtyHarley said:
The leather jacket is very interesting (and cool!) - something about it looks very familiar, but I can't put my finger on it! I'm thinking possibly a WW2 feldgendarmerie officers coat but I'm not sure and there are definitely way more knowledgable people than I around on the net
It was my Grandfather's coat and he was in charge of the horses during WW2 near Kehlstein, you might have heard of it? 
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