Is F1 a sport?
Discussion
Following on from Alonso's comments a few weeks ago, it has sparked some ideas in my mind and i have proposed to finish my final year at university by doing a dissertation on this very topic!
Im hoping that i can get some of your views in the not too distant future as i know that some of you may or not be fans of F1 this is the perfect place to start my study! I am in the process of creating a survey which will help me in my studies and i hope you can all contribute!
Does anyone have any good contacts that might be of use to me, i need to interview etc people that may be well involved in the "sport". Thanks in advance
Woza.
Im hoping that i can get some of your views in the not too distant future as i know that some of you may or not be fans of F1 this is the perfect place to start my study! I am in the process of creating a survey which will help me in my studies and i hope you can all contribute!
Does anyone have any good contacts that might be of use to me, i need to interview etc people that may be well involved in the "sport". Thanks in advance
Woza.
Something annoyed me so much about F1's presentation that I don't watch it anymore. I hated
the interviews with celebrities on the starting grid. An interviewer would walk up to a B to Z list celeb and ask, "What about you?" "Duh who, me?" "Do you like F1?" "Erm, duh, yes I do." IT'S ALL SO BLOODY FALSE.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
sport? [spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key
–noun
1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. Yep!
2. a particular form of this, esp. in the out of doors. Yep!
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime. Yep!
4. jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry: What he said in sport was taken seriously. Sort of
5. mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him. Oh yes
6. an object of derision; laughingstock. not naming names but... oh yes!
7. something treated lightly or tossed about like a plaything. They say the cars are getting easier to drive
8. something or someone subject to the whims or vicissitudes of fate, circumstances, etc. Sadly, yes
9. a sportsman. dubious in some, but on the whole, yep!
10. Informal. a person who behaves in a sportsmanlike, fair, or admirable manner; an accommodating person: He was a sport and took his defeat well. Not enough of this
11. Informal. a person who is interested in sports as an occasion for gambling; gambler. Possibly
12. Informal. a flashy person; one who wears showy clothes, affects smart manners, pursues pleasurable pastimes, or the like; a bon vivant. That will be Flav then!
13. Biology. an organism or part that shows an unusual or singular deviation from the normal or parent type; mutation. Ralf?
14. Obsolete. amorous dalliance. V10 engines?
–adjective
15. of, pertaining to, or used in sports or a particular sport.
16. suitable for outdoor or informal wear: sport clothes. Well, you'd not wear a set of Nomex to watch the telly
–verb (used without object)
17. to amuse oneself with some pleasant pastime or recreation. Yep!
18. to play, frolic, or gambol, as a child or an animal. I believe KR conforms on both counts!!
19. to engage in some open-air or athletic pastime or sport. Yep!
20. to trifle or treat lightly: to sport with another's emotions. Press conferences?
21. to mock, scoff, or tease: to sport at suburban life. Ditto!
22. Botany. to mutate. or as designers would say "evolve"
–verb (used with object)
23. to pass (time) in amusement or sport. Yep!
24. to spend or squander lightly or recklessly (often fol. by away). Yep!
25. Informal. to wear, display, carry, etc., esp. with ostentation; show off: to sport a new mink coat. Yep!
26. Archaic. to amuse (esp. oneself). Yep!
—Idiom
27. sport one's oak. oak (def. 5). ????
Despite much cynacisim, I'd have to say that it's a sport - just one (like many others) that has taken a different form to what we know and love
sport? [spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key
–noun
1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. Yep!
2. a particular form of this, esp. in the out of doors. Yep!
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime. Yep!
4. jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry: What he said in sport was taken seriously. Sort of
5. mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him. Oh yes
6. an object of derision; laughingstock. not naming names but... oh yes!
7. something treated lightly or tossed about like a plaything. They say the cars are getting easier to drive
8. something or someone subject to the whims or vicissitudes of fate, circumstances, etc. Sadly, yes
9. a sportsman. dubious in some, but on the whole, yep!
10. Informal. a person who behaves in a sportsmanlike, fair, or admirable manner; an accommodating person: He was a sport and took his defeat well. Not enough of this
11. Informal. a person who is interested in sports as an occasion for gambling; gambler. Possibly
12. Informal. a flashy person; one who wears showy clothes, affects smart manners, pursues pleasurable pastimes, or the like; a bon vivant. That will be Flav then!
13. Biology. an organism or part that shows an unusual or singular deviation from the normal or parent type; mutation. Ralf?
14. Obsolete. amorous dalliance. V10 engines?
–adjective
15. of, pertaining to, or used in sports or a particular sport.
16. suitable for outdoor or informal wear: sport clothes. Well, you'd not wear a set of Nomex to watch the telly
–verb (used without object)
17. to amuse oneself with some pleasant pastime or recreation. Yep!
18. to play, frolic, or gambol, as a child or an animal. I believe KR conforms on both counts!!
19. to engage in some open-air or athletic pastime or sport. Yep!
20. to trifle or treat lightly: to sport with another's emotions. Press conferences?
21. to mock, scoff, or tease: to sport at suburban life. Ditto!
22. Botany. to mutate. or as designers would say "evolve"
–verb (used with object)
23. to pass (time) in amusement or sport. Yep!
24. to spend or squander lightly or recklessly (often fol. by away). Yep!
25. Informal. to wear, display, carry, etc., esp. with ostentation; show off: to sport a new mink coat. Yep!
26. Archaic. to amuse (esp. oneself). Yep!
—Idiom
27. sport one's oak. oak (def. 5). ????
Despite much cynacisim, I'd have to say that it's a sport - just one (like many others) that has taken a different form to what we know and love
steviebee said:
waynepixel said:
No, it a business first. Trust on this.
I think it has to be (which is sad), but it's a business that allows a sporting event to take place.
No different to any other major sport today.
Agree with this. Yes its a sport ofcourse it is. But unfortunately like USA Basketball, Premiership Football, the most advanced cars in the world (F1) etc... Money dictates. The top teams have the money to almost buy the title or at least keep them at the top of their sports look at Chelsea buying all the best players in the world, Ferrari are no different, its modern day sport.
This is why I go to Oulton Park to see better racing than I do when I go to a Grand Prix, I still go to Grand Prix though because im a fan.
Doubt they will let you write your Dissertation on this topic alone maybe an analysis on how money / extreme wealth has ruined sport in general. Now theres a discussion for you!.
woza said:
Following on from Alonso's comments a few weeks ago, it has sparked some ideas in my mind and i have proposed to finish my final year at university by doing a dissertation on this very topic!
Im hoping that i can get some of your views in the not too distant future as i know that some of you may or not be fans of F1 this is the perfect place to start my study! I am in the process of creating a survey which will help me in my studies and i hope you can all contribute!
Does anyone have any good contacts that might be of use to me, i need to interview etc people that may be well involved in the "sport". Thanks in advance
Woza.
Im hoping that i can get some of your views in the not too distant future as i know that some of you may or not be fans of F1 this is the perfect place to start my study! I am in the process of creating a survey which will help me in my studies and i hope you can all contribute!
Does anyone have any good contacts that might be of use to me, i need to interview etc people that may be well involved in the "sport". Thanks in advance
Woza.
Look at the amounts of money and the people involved and then ask yourself that question again.
I think you might end up with a one line dissertation.
Edited by robbiemeister on Tuesday 26th September 11:29
robbiemeister said:
Look at the amounts of money and the people involved and then ask yourself that question again.
I think you might end up with a one line dissertation.
I don't buy that at all. Look at the people involved - the team principals have all come up through the ranks, there are still people like Ron Dennis and Frank Williams who cut their teeth in the lower formula before establishing themselves and developing / leading F1 racing over the last two or three decades. Look at the two men that I see as largely "responsible" for the dearth in real competition over the last decade; Jean Todt and Bernie Ecclestone, and the sport of it is still very much there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Tod
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_E
All the drivers have still grown up dreaming about racing like Senna, or Prost, or Villeneuve (er, Gilles obviously) et al. And all of them want to win the world championship, that's how they define themselves after all.
This is still very much a sport underneath, albeit on the face of it there are serious questions over how money and politics dictate who succeeds - but ask yourself whether this is uniquely an F1 problem and you might have the bones of a study. After all, the only "Abramovich" in F1 is Dietrich Mateschitz, and he's a long way from "buying" the world championship.
As has been said, every major sport is a business now, you just have to look a little more closely to decide whether it's an equal marriage; what is certain is that one could not survive without the other.
stumartin said:
robbiemeister said:
Look at the amounts of money and the people involved and then ask yourself that question again.
I think you might end up with a one line dissertation.
I don't buy that at all. Look at the people involved - the team principals have all come up through the ranks, there are still people like Ron Dennis and Frank Williams who cut their teeth in the lower formula before establishing themselves and developing / leading F1 racing over the last two or three decades. Look at the two men that I see as largely "responsible" for the dearth in real competition over the last decade; Jean Todt and Bernie Ecclestone, and the sport of it is still very much there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Tod
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_E
All the drivers have still grown up dreaming about racing like Senna, or Prost, or Villeneuve (er, Gilles obviously) et al. And all of them want to win the world championship, that's how they define themselves after all.
This is still very much a sport underneath, albeit on the face of it there are serious questions over how money and politics dictate who succeeds - but ask yourself whether this is uniquely an F1 problem and you might have the bones of a study. After all, the only "Abramovich" in F1 is Dietrich Mateschitz, and he's a long way from "buying" the world championship.
As has been said, every major sport is a business now, you just have to look a little more closely to decide whether it's an equal marriage; what is certain is that one could not survive without the other.
You've read a whole lot into one line.
JonRB said:
Formula 1 is a vast, self-perpetuating monster of a money-making business.
However, those of us who are fans, and have been for over 20 years, still like to delude ourselves that it is a sport.
However, those of us who are fans, and have been for over 20 years, still like to delude ourselves that it is a sport.
I just cant stop watching it . I know all the bad points , but I have been a fan since 1980 and i cant just stop being a fan .
JUST NEED MORE OVERTAKING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JonRB said:
Formula 1 is a vast, self-perpetuating monster of a money-making business.
However, those of us who are fans, and have been for over 20 years, still like to delude ourselves that it is a sport.
However, those of us who are fans, and have been for over 20 years, still like to delude ourselves that it is a sport.
Totally agree.....just can't stop watching the bl*ody thing even when it's just another dull procesion of fast ' mobile advertising hoardings ' !
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