F1 engines for 2007
Discussion
So Spyker get Ferrari power for next year, and with Mike Gascoyne penning the design for the car, will this bring the Silverstone based team back to the front of the grid? Reports suggest that they will get the full backing and support of Ferrari, which i assume will mean gearboxs and fuel/black box systems.
On a second note, where will this put the 2 Red Bull teams, we know that 1 will have Renault power(but not yet which one), with RBR having Ferrari power this year, and a(Ferrari quoted) contract for next year, but will the bosses at Ferrari want to supply a customer engine to 2 competing teams? Will it be pushing things to run the customer side with twice the quantity.
As mentioned on ITV(delayed) coverage of qualifying for China, Ants might get his chance at SAR, lets just hope they produce a car that will perform further up the grid, to allow an obvious talent his chance to shine and excel and prove on the (race day) track that he is in fact worthy of a top team seat.
I guess the waiting starts here.
On a second note, where will this put the 2 Red Bull teams, we know that 1 will have Renault power(but not yet which one), with RBR having Ferrari power this year, and a(Ferrari quoted) contract for next year, but will the bosses at Ferrari want to supply a customer engine to 2 competing teams? Will it be pushing things to run the customer side with twice the quantity.
As mentioned on ITV(delayed) coverage of qualifying for China, Ants might get his chance at SAR, lets just hope they produce a car that will perform further up the grid, to allow an obvious talent his chance to shine and excel and prove on the (race day) track that he is in fact worthy of a top team seat.
I guess the waiting starts here.
I know Williams were testing their Toyota-engined car this weekend, but couldn't see anything to suggest if they are using it in the race. Does anyone know if they are?
Looks like Cosworth will be out of luck for next year at this rate. As mentioned, Ferrari may start to grumble about supplying 2 other teams, unless they are hedging their bets to get as much testing as possible within the rules. I suppose Cosworth could just buy their own team, maybe Spyker if they give it a year or so...
Looks like Cosworth will be out of luck for next year at this rate. As mentioned, Ferrari may start to grumble about supplying 2 other teams, unless they are hedging their bets to get as much testing as possible within the rules. I suppose Cosworth could just buy their own team, maybe Spyker if they give it a year or so...
Cosworth are a small independant engine manufacturer now that they are seperate from Ford. They could not afford to buy a team or even run one. It's a real shame because their V8 seems a really good engine but the development budget is clearly lacking and reliability has suffered accordingly.
Cosworth will be out of F1 next season, possibly for good, so will have to look at other series - perhaps putting Cosworths in the back of the GP Masters cars would be a good marketing link. After all, how many of those drivers raced Cosworths in their heydays?
Cosworth will be out of F1 next season, possibly for good, so will have to look at other series - perhaps putting Cosworths in the back of the GP Masters cars would be a good marketing link. After all, how many of those drivers raced Cosworths in their heydays?
D-Angle said:
I know Williams were testing their Toyota-engined car this weekend, but couldn't see anything to suggest if they are using it in the race. Does anyone know if they are?
They were testing it at Silverstone last week, 3 days in one car, they wont be using it in the race though for 2 reasons, first they have a contract to use the Cosorth engines, and secondly the engine wont fit into the car, what they have to do is cut the back end off the monocoque of this years, and glue another one in place with the correct engine mounts. This would highly likely fail the crash test, but a test car does not have to pass, so no problems there.
Its the same process they have done in the past when they test the next years engine in the current chassis.
megy said:
On a second note, where will this put the 2 Red Bull teams, we know that 1 will have Renault power(but not yet which one), with RBR having Ferrari power this year, and a(Ferrari quoted) contract for next year, but will the bosses at Ferrari want to supply a customer engine to 2 competing teams? Will it be pushing things to run the customer side with twice the quantity.
But if all engine development is frozen the potential problems of running a few more engines, especially with no qualifying specials and all units being intended to last 2 race weekends, are much less than they would have been a decade or so ago.
The only important thing from Ferrari's POV is to ensure that whoever they supply is unlikely to beat them on the track. Renault may be much less concerned about that having been regular customer engine suppliers in the past. Plus they already put their name to the engines used in several different series as it is - GP2 for example.
LongQ said:
The only important thing from Ferrari's POV is to ensure that whoever they supply is unlikely to beat them on the track. Renault may be much less concerned about that having been regular customer engine suppliers in the past. Plus they already put their name to the engines used in several different series as it is - GP2 for example.
...which is why Mr Mateschitz is so keen to switch RBR to Renault power
As Cosworth are not supplying a team next year then presumably they don't have to submit an engine design to the FIA for it to be frozen. Thus in a couple of years time they can re-enter with any design they like, that could give them a major advantage over the competition. All they need is some money from somewhere to develop an new engine, unfortunately that is their problem, but it might be something a cash rich team like Red Bull might fund to get an advantage over the other teams.
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