407SW SE 136 or Mondeo 130 LX????

407SW SE 136 or Mondeo 130 LX????

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Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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I have narrowed down my replacement taxi to the two cars:

Current taxi is a 03 plate Mondeo 6sp 130 estate with 244k on the clock. Never missed a beat, doesn't rattle or feel loose, but needs retiring before it gets expensive.

I have the option of:

05/55 407 with 12k on the clock for £12,000

or

06/06 Mondeo with 6k on the clock for £10800

Clearly Mitsy has served me well over the last 3 years and is an excellent sales tool for the Mondeo, but I quite like the styling (read less dated) of the 407 - not that your average Saturday night punter will care, but your airport transfer customer will appreciate the comfort of the Pug.

I really can't decide and need to make a decision in the next day or so or sooner!

confused

o.versteer

3,338 posts

230 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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I'd say go with what you know, if the Mondeo has served you well get another one. It may not be the newest model around but that's to your advantage, any "issues" should be well and truly ironed out on an 06.

rushdriver

637 posts

259 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Tyre Smoke said:
I have narrowed down my replacement taxi to the two cars:

Current taxi is a 03 plate Mondeo 6sp 130 estate with 244k on the clock. Never missed a beat, doesn't rattle or feel loose, but needs retiring before it gets expensive.

I have the option of:

05/55 407 with 12k on the clock for £12,000

or

06/06 Mondeo with 6k on the clock for £10800

Clearly Mitsy has served me well over the last 3 years and is an excellent sales tool for the Mondeo, but I quite like the styling (read less dated) of the 407 - not that your average Saturday night punter will care, but your airport transfer customer will appreciate the comfort of the Pug.

I really can't decide and need to make a decision in the next day or so or sooner!

confused


244K miles!

Wow, have you had any work done on it at all?

I have a thing about hearing story's about high milers, I clearly need to get out more.

John

Phil Hopkins

17,110 posts

218 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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I'd probably stick with mondeo too. Is the fact it's a Pug with better styling going to improve your bottom line by £1,200?

If the answer is no, is the extra initial cost justifiable?

Dino D

1,953 posts

222 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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As a cab passenger I always appreciate the quality of the car and try to use companies I know have decent cars.

As a customer I owuld prefer the Pug but I wouldn't mind the Mondeo. Now if you had a Chryler 300c Estate (seen a couple saloons as taxis already) or an RS6 estate I would definitley make sure I booked you!!

The thing is, I suspect most punters don't care too much about the car as long as it is new, clean, quiet and spacious so I doubt the Pug will make you any more popular.

Also, is the Pug not the more unreliable car out of the two?

But on the other hand, given that you will be spending a wee bit of time behind the wheel should you not be placing some weight on which car you prefer to drive?

Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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rushdriver said:

244K miles!

Wow, have you had any work done on it at all?

I have a thing about hearing story's about high milers, I clearly need to get out more.

John


Routine servicing only. New clutch at 132k is the only 'major' thing.

a2z

1,080 posts

227 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Tyre Smoke said:
rushdriver said:

244K miles!

Wow, have you had any work done on it at all?

I have a thing about hearing story's about high milers, I clearly need to get out more.

John


Routine servicing only. New clutch at 132k is the only 'major' thing.


In my mind you have answered your own question. I would imagine that in your line of work you need a car that is out there earning and not one that is helping to send your mechanics kids to university I would would think the Pug would (although never owned one). However, I also have the exact Mondeo as you (but a hatch) and at "only" 120,000 it's never gone wrong either (still on original exhaust)

capri

182 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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My personal choice would be the Mondingo. And were I a customer of yours, I think I'd appreciate the better build quality and greater sense of security one feels in the back of the Mondy. Plus, while the pug is the less dated of the two, the Mondeo is arguably the classier looking car.

Tyre Smoke

Original Poster:

23,018 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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a2z said:
(still on original exhaust)


So's mine!

So you know you're okay for another 120k at least

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Go Mondy... bits start to fall of French cars when you approach space-ship mileage..

DennisTheMenace

15,603 posts

269 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Get another mondeo , the pug is a bit cramped in comparison

williamp

19,265 posts

274 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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There's a minicab in Leicester who is currently using a full-on dicrator special '80s Merc S-class (on LPG). Got picked up in this, and I was enjoying the ride so much I got him to drive around the block a few times: black with black leather. Very nice.

Shame to waste such a car as a Taxi, but....

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Mondeo every time, I spent over a year selling pugs for a main dealer. Great when they are new and to be fair the 407 is a good looking car for what it is. BUT (note that is a big but) shoutRELIABILITY NIGHTMARE!! The engines are good, but the elecs and build quality are not.

When a customer would pick up their new pug you would always wave them off and say "see you soon". This was not the figure of speach that they thought it was.

This is all IMHO obviously.

Edited by Mr MoJo on Wednesday 11th October 18:23


Edited by Mr MoJo on Wednesday 11th October 18:24

Nicholas Blair

4,096 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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I've had the misfortune to have had two Pugs rented to me on various trips and both complete crap.

Enough said.

Egbert Nobacon

2,835 posts

244 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Mr MoJo said:
The engines are good, but the elecs and build quality are not.



Edited by Mr MoJo on Wednesday 11th October 18:23


Edited by Mr MoJo on Wednesday 11th October 18:24


Yep I would agree. I ran a few 406 HDI's to high miles and it was always the electrics that let them down.

A chum has a 407 and again has had numerous electrical issues.

Get the Mondeo.

wmg100

1,698 posts

215 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Mr MoJo said:
The engines are good, but the elecs and build quality are not.


I ran a pug for 60k miles and whilst the engine never missed a beat, the stereo, central locking, door mirrors, front fogs and windows all broke. And all of the plastic and rubber on the outside seemed to have been attached with porridge.

Of the two the mondeo will be the most hassle free (as you have experienced)

However, if I were a Taxi driver I would be looking more at a 607 HDI as these are very cheap now and offer quite a bit of space and comfort for the money, but presumably with the same pug probs. Also, what about a Skoda Superb?

loader

127 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Mondeo every time, guy at my work has a new 407 never out the garage. What about a Skoda Octavia TDI? All the taxis around me seem to be using them.

Pies

13,116 posts

257 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Im driving a 407,get the ford