Calling New 997 GT3 Owners

[anglebox10]

Hello chaps, just wondering :

1. If the new cars were still living up to expectations ??
2. Has anyone been up to full revs yet - if so was it suitably loud ??
3. Anyone worn their tyres out yet ??
4. Any other useful snippets of info ??

Cheers

[997gt3]

Yeah c'mon guys talk to us...post photos...anything PLEASE!!

I need my weekly GT3 fix

[anglebox10]

I forgot it's Sunday, probably all out driving and enjoying themselves !!

[glenn mcmenamin]

Here some stuff to wet your appetite



997 GT3 at 300KMH (sound)
[url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aXqh-6pb94&NR[/url]


and heres an RS at full chat down the Nordscheife straight

[url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN-lcjilUfE&mode=related&search=[/url]

[Geneve]

anglebox10 said:

Hello chaps, just wondering :

1. If the new cars were still living up to expectations ??
2. Has anyone been up to full revs yet - if so was it suitably loud ??
3. Anyone worn their tyres out yet ??
4. Any other useful snippets of info ??

Cheers

1. No, it's exceeded my expectations.

2. Yes. There is no running in period. I was advised by the OPC, and a race engine builder, to take it easy for the first 250 miles (to bed in all the car's other components) then gradually increased the revs, occassionally taking it up to peak rpm - sounds fabulous.

3. No, but in enjoyable road use I would expect the rears (MSCs) to last around 5000 miles.

4. Was out in mine today and every journey is special. Everything you read in the road test reports is true - it really does appear to be the best 911 ever for road and track. It would be interesting to know how significant the PCCBs are. I opted for them (and they are awesome), and all the press cars have them, but until someone does a 'back to back' comparison it's difficult to know how much benefit they contribute.

[anglebox10]

Geneve said:

anglebox10 said:

Hello chaps, just wondering :

1. If the new cars were still living up to expectations ??
2. Has anyone been up to full revs yet - if so was it suitably loud ??
3. Anyone worn their tyres out yet ??
4. Any other useful snippets of info ??

Cheers

1. No, it's exceeded my expectations.

2. Yes. There is no running in period. I was advised by the OPC, and a race engine builder, to take it easy for the first 250 miles (to bed in all the car's other components) then gradually increased the revs, occassionally taking it up to peak rpm - sounds fabulous.

3. No, but in enjoyable road use I would expect the rears (MSCs) to last around 5000 miles.

4. Was out in mine today and every journey is special. Everything you read in the road test reports is true - it really does appear to be the best 911 ever for road and track. It would be interesting to know how significant the PCCBs are. I opted for them (and they are awesome), and all the press cars have them, but until someone does a 'back to back' comparison it's difficult to know how much benefit they contribute.

Thanks for that Geneve.
March just seems so far away !!!

[997gt3]

Tell me about it!! Cant wait to get Xmas out of the way and into 2007.

[anglebox10]

It would be interesting to know how significant the PCCBs are. I opted for them (and they are awesome), and all the press cars have them, but until someone does a 'back to back' comparison it's difficult to know how much benefit they contribute.[/quote]


Talked to one of the 'Porsche Experience' drivers a few weeks ago. He reckoned they were looking to have a car with each type of brakes for the GT3 'experience' day, if that happens should be a good chance to compare.

[yorkie997s]

Geneve said:

anglebox10 said:

Hello chaps, just wondering :

1. If the new cars were still living up to expectations ??
2. Has anyone been up to full revs yet - if so was it suitably loud ??
3. Anyone worn their tyres out yet ??
4. Any other useful snippets of info ??

Cheers

1. No, it's exceeded my expectations.

2. Yes. There is no running in period. I was advised by the OPC, and a race engine builder, to take it easy for the first 250 miles (to bed in all the car's other components) then gradually increased the revs, occassionally taking it up to peak rpm - sounds fabulous.

3. No, but in enjoyable road use I would expect the rears (MSCs) to last around 5000 miles.

4. Was out in mine today and every journey is special. Everything you read in the road test reports is true - it really does appear to be the best 911 ever for road and track. It would be interesting to know how significant the PCCBs are. I opted for them (and they are awesome), and all the press cars have them, but until someone does a 'back to back' comparison it's difficult to know how much benefit they contribute.

Absolutely love mine and the sound is intoxicating - I don't think the youtube clips do it justice. I also am surprised at the amount of attention it gets, never experienced anything like it in other Porsches - all good by the way although I am careful where I park it. It really is special.

[chrisw.]

The Pilot Sport Cups are supposed to wear quite fast. In effect they only have a fraction over 3mm in place of the normal 7mm of wear, and my PS2's on the MkII ran down to the canvas on the inside shoulders in 6000 miles. And I am told that they all do that ...

So, less than 3000 miles per rear set when driven on road reasonably quickly ?

Time will tell.

[Geneve]

chrisw. said:

The Pilot Sport Cups are supposed to wear quite fast. In effect they only have a fraction over 3mm in place of the normal 7mm of wear, and my PS2's on the MkII ran down to the canvas on the inside shoulders in 6000 miles. And I am told that they all do that ...

So, less than 3000 miles per rear set when driven on road reasonably quickly ?

Time will tell.

They actually start with 5mm of tread.

[loach]

Geneve said:

They actually start with 5mm of tread.

SHHHH-IIIIIIITT. Now that's got to hurt. I'd imagine that 3-5000 miles is about as much as you could reasonably hope for there with spirited driving. Given the number of 997GT3 owners and expectees on the board, is it not worth getting a group buy together? Even if there were only 5 or 6 guys getting together for a buy, it might be worth looking at. At 2 new fronts and 4 rears per year, that'd be a fair few tyres. At any sort of economy of scale, bringing a batch in from overseas would even start to look relevant.



Edit - I see this has been mentioned in more detail in another thread. Still - if anyone wants me to price them here and see if deals are available, I'll have a go.

Edited by loach on Monday 4th December 23:50

[chrisw.]

Geneve said:

chrisw. said:

The Pilot Sport Cups are supposed to wear quite fast. In effect they only have a fraction over 3mm in place of the normal 7mm of wear, and my PS2's on the MkII ran down to the canvas on the inside shoulders in 6000 miles. And I am told that they all do that ...

So, less than 3000 miles per rear set when driven on road reasonably quickly ?

Time will tell.

They actually start with 5mm of tread.

--- But you'll change them or track them at 2mm, won't you ? 5-3=2. 9-2=7 ....

[Koln-RS]

chrisw. said:

Geneve said:

chrisw. said:

The Pilot Sport Cups are supposed to wear quite fast. In effect they only have a fraction over 3mm in place of the normal 7mm of wear, and my PS2's on the MkII ran down to the canvas on the inside shoulders in 6000 miles. And I am told that they all do that ...

So, less than 3000 miles per rear set when driven on road reasonably quickly ?

Time will tell.

They actually start with 5mm of tread.

--- But you'll change them or track them at 2mm, won't you ? 5-3=2. 9-2=7 ....

9 mm of tread? What are you running, BF Goodrich All Terrains?

[Geneve]

I think most of the 19" road tyres will start life with nearer 7mm.

The new MSCs are clearly a very clever bespoke tyre for the GT3, but most owners are likely to want alternatives.

For regular track use, there needs to be a cheaper option, and this will no doubt filter through the grape vine in due course. But for regular road use there probably needs to be a more durable, 'approved' all weather option.

It concerns me that, unless buyers put pressure on Porsche to provide an alternative, they will only recommend the MSCs (or the forthcoming Corsas), which will be expensive and have a relatively short life.

[cardigankid]

So, as objectively as you can, if you had to buy a 997 GT3 or a V8 Vantage which would you go for and why?

[atomic]

When I test drove the Aston I was dissapointed overall by the "experience". Perhaps it had something to do with the key being the same as a transit van or Volvo logos being plastered on many of the components. It's a shame because it is a great looking car and I really really wanted to be impressed with it. The overall sense of occasion just wasn't there in the way it is with the 997 GT3 which feels properly special. I also found the driving position strange and had a sense of reaching down and forewards to grip the gear lever which I didn't like much and the seating position seemed skewed. It also didn't seem that fast.

Now I've had a few days in the GT3 I can honestly say it's exceeding my expectations and is a big step on from the MK1 996 GT3 I had when it first came out. The ride on normal A and B roads is amazing for such a focused car. Sounds great too.

So no question in my mind. GT3.

Edited by atomic on Tuesday 5th December 14:45

[grant3]

They are different animals.
I came from a 996TT to an AMV8 & am moving to a 997GT3.

The Aston is a fabulous ownership experience, the crafted interior, the amazing looks that make you want to set up a chair in the garage, the fantastic sound of the V8 & it IS a great drivers car with great balance on the twisty stuff. I love it.

The GT3 is on another level when it comes to pure drivers cars, a lot faster more involving & interactive, a real race car for the road, but with decent manners for a daily drive.

Ultimately they are equally fabulous but in different ways, the Aston wins on looks, interior, image & Grand tourer ability, the GT3 wins on driver interaction, maximum adrenalin pump, man & machine in harmony.

You pay your money & take your choice!

[cardigankid]

Plus of course my kids think I'm James Bond. Going to be a tough decision.

[grant3]

cardigankid said:

Plus of course my kids think I'm James Bond. Going to be a tough decision.

They may think you are James Bond, but they can't fit in the back!!!!!!!