Is that a Weird place for the Remote Damper Reservoirs

Is that a Weird place for the Remote Damper Reservoirs

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jellison

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12,803 posts

277 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Jubilee'ed to the top wishbone - asking for it to fall off - surelly needs to be on the chassis?

teamHOLDENracing

5,089 posts

267 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Its really the only place it can go. If you look at the near side there is no clearance with the exhausts. And on the off side if you were to mount it on the chassis rail it would be right next to the exhausts, which you don't want. So we put them on the wishbones. Its only going to 'fall off' if you rip a corner off the car - in whih case the damper is in big trouble anyway...

GreenV8S

30,200 posts

284 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Don't know about falling off, but it's unsprung there which seems like a dumb move.

Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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mine are mounted to the radiator frame, which is slightly different to the one on that sag..

WOuldnt the extra shock going through them risk agitating the oil? as they're getting all the shock from the wheel movement.

teamHOLDENracing

5,089 posts

267 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Graham said:
mine are mounted to the radiator frame, which is slightly different to the one on that sag..

WOuldnt the extra shock going through them risk agitating the oil? as they're getting all the shock from the wheel movement.


Where do you fix your rear ones then Graham? Lower wishbone by any chance?

Your Penske front dampers have quite long connecting lines which give you greater flexibility, and they reach the rad frame. My Ohlins are very short as Tim's look to be, so mine also go on the front wishbone.



Edited by teamHOLDENracing on Friday 26th January 16:46

chuggaboom

1,152 posts

248 months

Saturday 27th January 2007
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Penske 3 way on mine...reservoir is attached via a casting that is top spring retainer.

jellison

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Sunday 28th January 2007
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teamHOLDENracing said:
Its really the only place it can go. If you look at the near side there is no clearance with the exhausts. And on the off side if you were to mount it on the chassis rail it would be right next to the exhausts, which you don't want. So we put them on the wishbones. Its only going to 'fall off' if you rip a corner off the car - in whih case the damper is in big trouble anyway...
Cool - nice one Andy. Could you not put some longer flex hose on and have on the chassis rails between the two top wishbone connection points.

Have to come see some races this year, when not clashing, will be 2+ year b4 I have mine ready!

trackcar

6,453 posts

226 months

Sunday 28th January 2007
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looks a strange position to me too .. surely not hard to fabricate a small mouting on the chassis to take them, or get them specced with longer hoses? can't argue with the speed of that black Sag though hehe so it's not a big compromise

jellison

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Sunday 28th January 2007
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Andy how many dampers do you run on the rear?

teamHOLDENracing

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267 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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jellison said:
Andy how many dampers do you run on the rear?


...strange question - one on each corner. I think it will be hard to find a car that doesn't have the remote resevoirs strapped to the lower wishbone at the rear, other than those like Chuggabooms where the remote cannisters form part of the main casting.

Yes you can have the hoses lengthened but you would still struggle to mount them on the chassis on the near side due to the proximity of the exhaust.

If there is an advantage to putting the cannisters on the chassis then it is pretty marginal, or every car would already have them there...

jellison

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Monday 29th January 2007
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teamHOLDENracing said:
jellison said:
Andy how many dampers do you run on the rear?


...strange question - one on each corner. I think it will be hard to find a car that doesn't have the remote resevoirs strapped to the lower wishbone at the rear, other than those like Chuggabooms where the remote cannisters form part of the main casting.

Yes you can have the hoses lengthened but you would still struggle to mount them on the chassis on the near side due to the proximity of the exhaust.

If there is an advantage to putting the cannisters on the chassis then it is pretty marginal, or every car would already have them there...

All TVR's susppesion point I have looked at have on the back the attachment points for a second set of dampers / spring. All Original Griffs had them and my car does.