Spyker Unveiled- Uh oh, it's Gascoyned!

Spyker Unveiled- Uh oh, it's Gascoyned!

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Monday 5th February 2007
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F1racing.net said:
Chief technical officer, Mike Gascoyne, added, "Since I arrived at Spyker three months ago, I've been looking carefully at the technical department to put in place the personnel, procedures and resources that will give the team structure; already we've doubled our aerodynamic resources with a second wind tunnel and dedicated team in Italy. As a team we're looking at planning for the future through a more structured approach by prioritising key aspects that will give a big improvement rather than small, gradual steps. I'm looking forward to seeing the results of the changes in the second half of the season when we deliver an improved B-spec package."


Jordan...
Toyota...
Spyker...

Will they never learn!

megy

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215 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Looks very orange.



I was meant to be at the launch at Silverstone, but couldnt get the time off work.



Edited by megy on Monday 5th February 12:15

SamHH

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Monday 5th February 2007
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I like the new paint scheme; it's somewhat Arrows-ish. They'll no longer be confused with the McLarens.

Eric Mc

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Monday 5th February 2007
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Will it retain that colour scheme for the races? It's essentially in the national racing colours of The Netherlands i.e. Orange.

megy

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Monday 5th February 2007
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Couple more pics.







limegreennutter

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211 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Ah - three layer front wing = struggling for front downforce.

Dr JonboyG

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240 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Limegreennutter - hasn't every car this year had a 3 element front wing? I know the RB3 has.

Locoblade

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257 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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.....and the Mclaren, Renaul and Ferrari to name but three.


Edited by Locoblade on Monday 5th February 13:39

SamHH

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Monday 5th February 2007
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It's hard to tell from those pics but it appears the Spyker has 4 front wing elements: three lower and one upper.

Ferrari's car has two lower and one thin upper element. McLaren three lower elements. Toyota two lower and one 'half' upper element. Renault two lower and one upper. BMW two lower and sometimes one 'half' upper.

I guess it depends a lot on what the downforce requirements at any given track are.

SamHH

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Monday 5th February 2007
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I've made the pic brighter to reveal what's going on there. It's a four element wing with three lower elements and one upper 'half' element.

stumartin

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238 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Looks shit, bulky and purposeless.


(imo)

FourWheelDrift

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285 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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It needs bigger rear view mirrors as I think they might be using them a lot this year.

limegreennutter

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Monday 5th February 2007
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SamHH said:
I've made the pic brighter to reveal what's going on there. It's a four element wing with three lower elements and one upper 'half' element.



Otherwise known as a three element wing. The 4th element is a flow conditioner, adds nothing (or very little) to downforce.

SamHH

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Monday 5th February 2007
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limegreennutter said:


Otherwise known as a three element wing. The 4th element is a flow conditioner, adds nothing (or very little) to downforce.

I see what you meant now. I'm interested to know why a three element wing suggests they are struggling for downforce. Couldn't it be that they think three smaller elements will work better than two larger elements giving the same downforce?

spectatorsam

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Monday 5th February 2007
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FourWheelDrift said:
It needs bigger rear view mirrors as I think they might be using them a lot this year.



yeah but you still would though wouldn't you??

FourWheelDrift

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Monday 5th February 2007
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spectatorsam said:
FourWheelDrift said:
It needs bigger rear view mirrors as I think they might be using them a lot this year.



yeah but you still would though wouldn't you??


Drive it, not hump it.

limegreennutter

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Monday 5th February 2007
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SamHH said:
limegreennutter said:


Otherwise known as a three element wing. The 4th element is a flow conditioner, adds nothing (or very little) to downforce.

I see what you meant now. I'm interested to know why a three element wing suggests they are struggling for downforce. Couldn't it be that they think three smaller elements will work better than two larger elements giving the same downforce?


It's usually a solution saved for when you are up against it for front end d/f, it's very draggy (ie not very efficient)

Dr JonboyG

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Monday 5th February 2007
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limegreennutter said:
SamHH said:
limegreennutter said:


Otherwise known as a three element wing. The 4th element is a flow conditioner, adds nothing (or very little) to downforce.

I see what you meant now. I'm interested to know why a three element wing suggests they are struggling for downforce. Couldn't it be that they think three smaller elements will work better than two larger elements giving the same downforce?


It's usually a solution saved for when you are up against it for front end d/f, it's very draggy (ie not very efficient)


Right, but you haven't addressed the fact that the RB3, MP/4-22 and R27 all seem to use 3-element front wings too.

Dr JonboyG

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Tuesday 6th February 2007
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bump

limegreennutter

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Tuesday 6th February 2007
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As I said, it's a very draggy slution to a lack of front end d/f. Perhaps they are struggling, perhaps it's the right way FOR THEM.

Remember, no two cars are the same & the smallest change at the front end can have a massive impact.

I remember changing a gurney flap on Hesens car & him coming into the pits saying he felt like he was having his helmet sucked off!!!!!!