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triple7 said:
Hey PH how are you doing not being surrounded by gorgeous models all day, Jags that is!
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Hey G,
I'm still surrounded by gorgeous models! It's just a pity only one of which is feline.
Check this link: www.philh.co.uk/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=219
I'm now involved with a super-car club!
Thanks for the replies!
I'm thinking of getting the S-Type in the summer to replace my Focus TDCI.
I really like the S-type especially the driving position and seats. not sure about the lack of rear leg room and boot space but i'm sure i can cope.
my main concern is running costs and fuel consumption as i do 20-25K a year. i do mostly (80%) motorway driving at around the national limit what should I expect? will i get 25mpg? will i get close to 30mpg? serving costs i would guess to be at £300ish, with everything 3rd being £500ish? and the main issue is what are they like for at 100,000 - 150,000miles? any known issues at high mileage?
the other options are and i'm sure it isn't going to go like the R, i could get a newer 3.0 sport or a 4.2 V8 Sport (if i can find one) would the fuel consumption be signicantly better over the R? or is the difference just a few mpg?
a black S-type R on a 03/04 plate would be lovely.
Thanks
NST
I'm thinking of getting the S-Type in the summer to replace my Focus TDCI.
I really like the S-type especially the driving position and seats. not sure about the lack of rear leg room and boot space but i'm sure i can cope.
my main concern is running costs and fuel consumption as i do 20-25K a year. i do mostly (80%) motorway driving at around the national limit what should I expect? will i get 25mpg? will i get close to 30mpg? serving costs i would guess to be at £300ish, with everything 3rd being £500ish? and the main issue is what are they like for at 100,000 - 150,000miles? any known issues at high mileage?
the other options are and i'm sure it isn't going to go like the R, i could get a newer 3.0 sport or a 4.2 V8 Sport (if i can find one) would the fuel consumption be signicantly better over the R? or is the difference just a few mpg?
a black S-type R on a 03/04 plate would be lovely.
Thanks
NST
Hi There
a Black S Type R on an 03/04 plate is lovely (mine's 04) - Just had it for about a year and added 28k to it's original 9k mileage - very reliable - and I get about 21mpg typical mix of roads for me is 60% motorway 40% B roads.
Would be interesting to hear any high mileage stories - I intend to keep mine for at least a couple of years and in that time it'll get up to about 90k miles....
Guy
a Black S Type R on an 03/04 plate is lovely (mine's 04) - Just had it for about a year and added 28k to it's original 9k mileage - very reliable - and I get about 21mpg typical mix of roads for me is 60% motorway 40% B roads.
Would be interesting to hear any high mileage stories - I intend to keep mine for at least a couple of years and in that time it'll get up to about 90k miles....
Guy
25/26mpg is what i was expecting which is fine and can cope with that. i don't think i would cope with sub 20mpg..
Guy10, how you do find your S-Type R? plus/negative points? is the performance what you expected? I have driven a M3 and 996 3.4 a number of times and i hope that the S-Type R is in a similar league with the added bonus of comfort!
cheers
NST
Guy10, how you do find your S-Type R? plus/negative points? is the performance what you expected? I have driven a M3 and 996 3.4 a number of times and i hope that the S-Type R is in a similar league with the added bonus of comfort!
cheers
NST
Hi There
February 2003 to April 2006 I owned a e39 M5...a 1999 model with 47k on the clock when I bought it, and 130k when I PXed it for an 2004 S Type R. As you can tell I do 25-30k a year, mostly on a route that is 1.5 hrs rally stage (A and B roads between Derbyshire and Birmingham) then the M42/M40/M25 to Heathrow-ish)
2 yr old S Type R bought 12 months ago with 9.5k miles on the clock - main reason for sale was BMWs change on their warranty policy, so I couldn't purchase the extended warranty anymore....and the Jaguar dealer offered me £10k PX
The S Type R has had 2 services so far with an additional 28k miles since I bought it (new rear disks and pads, front pads)
M5 - Great car, very fast. Fantastic chassis for such a large car.
S Type R - Automatic!...wasn't sure if I could live with an automatic, but it's a very clever automatic, and you soon learn how to change (down) gear by increasing the accelerator pressure by a certain amount - wierd if you've never done it, but you can soon get into it. It's a very clever gearbox, and if you've got the sport button pressed and put your foot to the floor it will rev all the way to the limiter in every gear. A good trick.
Incidentally, you can keep the sport mode permanently engaged, which you couldn't in the M5 - you had to select it every time you turn it on
Chassis-wise, the S type R inspires slightly more confidence that the M5. Pushing it, you the rear of the M5 felt twitchy. The S type R feels more planted and more progressive.
Traction control much more intrusive on the M5.
I could go on all night, but I think (after 80k miles in the M5 and 28k in the S Type R) overall the S Type R is a slightly better car...the chassis is (suprisingly) better...in the real world it's (suprisingly) a little bit faster...if you can live with the (very clever) auto gearbox
Default S Type R Tyres (contis)last 20k, rather than 7-13k for (GoodYear) for M5 as well.
Hope this helps
Guy
February 2003 to April 2006 I owned a e39 M5...a 1999 model with 47k on the clock when I bought it, and 130k when I PXed it for an 2004 S Type R. As you can tell I do 25-30k a year, mostly on a route that is 1.5 hrs rally stage (A and B roads between Derbyshire and Birmingham) then the M42/M40/M25 to Heathrow-ish)
2 yr old S Type R bought 12 months ago with 9.5k miles on the clock - main reason for sale was BMWs change on their warranty policy, so I couldn't purchase the extended warranty anymore....and the Jaguar dealer offered me £10k PX
The S Type R has had 2 services so far with an additional 28k miles since I bought it (new rear disks and pads, front pads)
M5 - Great car, very fast. Fantastic chassis for such a large car.
S Type R - Automatic!...wasn't sure if I could live with an automatic, but it's a very clever automatic, and you soon learn how to change (down) gear by increasing the accelerator pressure by a certain amount - wierd if you've never done it, but you can soon get into it. It's a very clever gearbox, and if you've got the sport button pressed and put your foot to the floor it will rev all the way to the limiter in every gear. A good trick.
Incidentally, you can keep the sport mode permanently engaged, which you couldn't in the M5 - you had to select it every time you turn it on
Chassis-wise, the S type R inspires slightly more confidence that the M5. Pushing it, you the rear of the M5 felt twitchy. The S type R feels more planted and more progressive.
Traction control much more intrusive on the M5.
I could go on all night, but I think (after 80k miles in the M5 and 28k in the S Type R) overall the S Type R is a slightly better car...the chassis is (suprisingly) better...in the real world it's (suprisingly) a little bit faster...if you can live with the (very clever) auto gearbox
Default S Type R Tyres (contis)last 20k, rather than 7-13k for (GoodYear) for M5 as well.
Hope this helps
Guy
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