S-Type R

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NST

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1,523 posts

244 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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i noticed that the S-type R has dipped below 20K even at the dealers. how low can they go?

even seen some for 16K! anything worth looking out for on the older models?

triple7

4,013 posts

238 months

Wednesday 7th March 2007
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Nope, the S-Type R was the start of the good S. Just check it si fully serviced and no probs with the gearbox. IMHO the older 1st edition Type R's look far meaner than the new softer looking models.

G

Phil Hopkins

17,110 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th March 2007
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triple7 said:
Nope, the S-Type R was the start of the good S. Just check it si fully serviced and no probs with the gearbox. IMHO the older 1st edition Type R's look far meaner than the new softer looking models.

G


Agreed.

triple7

4,013 posts

238 months

Wednesday 7th March 2007
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Hey PH how are you doing not being surrounded by gorgeous models all day, Jags that is! hehe

G

Phil Hopkins

17,110 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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triple7 said:
Hey PH how are you doing not being surrounded by gorgeous models all day, Jags that is! hehe

G


Hey G,

I'm still surrounded by gorgeous models! It's just a pity only one of which is feline.

Check this link: www.philh.co.uk/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=219

I'm now involved with a super-car club! thumbup

NST

Original Poster:

1,523 posts

244 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Thanks for the replies!

I'm thinking of getting the S-Type in the summer to replace my Focus TDCI.

I really like the S-type especially the driving position and seats. not sure about the lack of rear leg room and boot space but i'm sure i can cope.

my main concern is running costs and fuel consumption as i do 20-25K a year. i do mostly (80%) motorway driving at around the national limit what should I expect? will i get 25mpg? will i get close to 30mpg? serving costs i would guess to be at £300ish, with everything 3rd being £500ish? and the main issue is what are they like for at 100,000 - 150,000miles? any known issues at high mileage?

the other options are and i'm sure it isn't going to go like the R, i could get a newer 3.0 sport or a 4.2 V8 Sport (if i can find one) would the fuel consumption be signicantly better over the R? or is the difference just a few mpg?

a black S-type R on a 03/04 plate would be lovely.

Thanks

NST

guy10

90 posts

219 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Hi There

a Black S Type R on an 03/04 plate is lovely (mine's 04) - Just had it for about a year and added 28k to it's original 9k mileage - very reliable - and I get about 21mpg typical mix of roads for me is 60% motorway 40% B roads.

Would be interesting to hear any high mileage stories - I intend to keep mine for at least a couple of years and in that time it'll get up to about 90k miles....

Guy

Phil Hopkins

17,110 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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I would expect you to get in the region of 25-26mpg combined if most of your driving is on the motorway.

NST

Original Poster:

1,523 posts

244 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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25/26mpg is what i was expecting which is fine and can cope with that. i don't think i would cope with sub 20mpg..

Guy10, how you do find your S-Type R? plus/negative points? is the performance what you expected? I have driven a M3 and 996 3.4 a number of times and i hope that the S-Type R is in a similar league with the added bonus of comfort!

cheers

NST

guy10

90 posts

219 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Hi There

February 2003 to April 2006 I owned a e39 M5...a 1999 model with 47k on the clock when I bought it, and 130k when I PXed it for an 2004 S Type R. As you can tell I do 25-30k a year, mostly on a route that is 1.5 hrs rally stage (A and B roads between Derbyshire and Birmingham) then the M42/M40/M25 to Heathrow-ish)

2 yr old S Type R bought 12 months ago with 9.5k miles on the clock - main reason for sale was BMWs change on their warranty policy, so I couldn't purchase the extended warranty anymore....and the Jaguar dealer offered me £10k PX

The S Type R has had 2 services so far with an additional 28k miles since I bought it (new rear disks and pads, front pads)

M5 - Great car, very fast. Fantastic chassis for such a large car.

S Type R - Automatic!...wasn't sure if I could live with an automatic, but it's a very clever automatic, and you soon learn how to change (down) gear by increasing the accelerator pressure by a certain amount - wierd if you've never done it, but you can soon get into it. It's a very clever gearbox, and if you've got the sport button pressed and put your foot to the floor it will rev all the way to the limiter in every gear. A good trick.

Incidentally, you can keep the sport mode permanently engaged, which you couldn't in the M5 - you had to select it every time you turn it on

Chassis-wise, the S type R inspires slightly more confidence that the M5. Pushing it, you the rear of the M5 felt twitchy. The S type R feels more planted and more progressive.

Traction control much more intrusive on the M5.

I could go on all night, but I think (after 80k miles in the M5 and 28k in the S Type R) overall the S Type R is a slightly better car...the chassis is (suprisingly) better...in the real world it's (suprisingly) a little bit faster...if you can live with the (very clever) auto gearbox

Default S Type R Tyres (contis)last 20k, rather than 7-13k for (GoodYear) for M5 as well.

Hope this helps

Guy

NST

Original Poster:

1,523 posts

244 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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cheers!

RedCabbage

3,606 posts

233 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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Just thought I'd dig up this topic to ask if there are any cylinder liner issues with the S Type R as there may be with some XKR's?

escargot

17,110 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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Do you mean the old nikasil issue?

If so, no, that was a long time ago on the 4.0 version of the AJ-V8. The 4.2s are all steel lined.


Phil.

Edited by escargot on Thursday 20th March 16:32

RedCabbage

3,606 posts

233 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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escargot said:
Do you mean the old nikasil issue?

If so, no, that was a long time ago on the 4.0 version of the AJ-V8. The 4.2s are all steel lined.


Phil.

Edited by escargot on Thursday 20th March 16:32
Nikasil thats the stuff!

Good, thanks.