Nurburgring in 8:33 min. Fastest participants lap
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here the fastest lap at the Nordschleife in 08:33 min. ever been driven by one of our driver training participants:
www.race-training.com/videos/nordschleife4.wmv
car: 470 hp Techart Porsche 996 Turbo, driven on May 6th, 2007. Anybody to beat this time? :-)) I'm joking!
Here the instructions are given in German as it was a German participant. English is also possible of course.
He started the training arround 10:00 minutes and improved his lap time by more than 60 seconds!
Regards
Oliver
www.race-training.com/videos/nordschleife4.wmv
car: 470 hp Techart Porsche 996 Turbo, driven on May 6th, 2007. Anybody to beat this time? :-)) I'm joking!
Here the instructions are given in German as it was a German participant. English is also possible of course.
He started the training arround 10:00 minutes and improved his lap time by more than 60 seconds!
Regards
Oliver
8:33 Bridge to Gantry time of course, which would be 9:00 or so full lap. Not too bad on a public day for a novice if thats his first day there, miles off the pace of the car though, give me a free lesson and i'll knock at least 33 seconds off that. 
The real test to how well he learned through the training would have been to see how he went without the instructor sat in the car on that lap, it's easy when someones telling you what to do, not so easy when you have to remember whats coming up next yourself.
I predict carnage if you timed your pupils on their own though.
The real test to how well he learned through the training would have been to see how he went without the instructor sat in the car on that lap, it's easy when someones telling you what to do, not so easy when you have to remember whats coming up next yourself.
I predict carnage if you timed your pupils on their own though.
Well it was not his first visit to Ring but he had less than 25 laps before our training. We did 17 laps (6 on Saturday evening and 11 on Sunday). He booked me exclusively for that training and improved constantly the last laps were a little bit slower as we had too much traffic. For a novice this time is not bad.
Best regards
Oliver
www.race-training.com
Best regards
Oliver
www.race-training.com
Well 8:33 min. in the public for someone who has done less than 50 laps on the Nordschleife is pretty fast. Remember that there is always some traffic and one crash at the "Brünnchen" where he had to slow down. There you easyly loose 2 seconds or more. Without traffic he could have gone 8:30 min. or faster.
pdd144c: Which car did you go below 9 min.?
pdd144c: Which car did you go below 9 min.?
Hey John,
Remember our first ever lap. In your Westie. In the fog LOL. Hilarious!
Oliver,
8.33 isn't bad, but I had an 8:47, 4 up in a 184bhp 330d, so I guess that an 8 min BTG lap in the Porsche is more than possible. I'm sure John would love to see if the Porsche could manage it!
Matt
Remember our first ever lap. In your Westie. In the fog LOL. Hilarious!
Oliver,
8.33 isn't bad, but I had an 8:47, 4 up in a 184bhp 330d, so I guess that an 8 min BTG lap in the Porsche is more than possible. I'm sure John would love to see if the Porsche could manage it!
Matt
Hi Matt,
Hard to forget that first lap really isnt it. Good job i wasnt trying for a time, i was just trying to keep my undies clean.
One of my favourite memories of those first trips was playing the video footage back in the Lindenhof on the main TV from the lap where i made rich askew turn into a gibering wreck, it was around my 12-15th lap, i passed a Porshe GT3 round the outside through miss hit miss then completely forgot about werseifen and just about got away with that (on the grass just missing the armco, big lesson learnt there!), all the Bikers and regulars were then cheering as my little Westie went round the outside of a RUF Porsche with the biggest wing in the history of 911's on the entry to brunchen, end of the lap rich had 7:56 on the stopwatch
the time was wrong as rich pressed the stopwatch too soon, the camera footage showed 8:20, not too bad for an early lap being held up in traffic. Looking back at the footage now i realise just how little i knew about the place, the rally experience was useful back then.
Sadly that Porsche isnt up for my use, it's one of olivers customers cars, 8:00 would be a piece of cake in that car these days. Not that i sugest timing laps as a useful thing to do, i just drive for fun when i get the chance these days. I wouldnt mind giving Paul's 700BHP Impreza another run round there one quiet day though, that should be seriously quick now it's properly sorted.
We must catch up soon Matt, we are doing the support race for the British GP so maybe see you there.
Hard to forget that first lap really isnt it.
Good job i wasnt trying for a time, i was just trying to keep my undies clean. One of my favourite memories of those first trips was playing the video footage back in the Lindenhof on the main TV from the lap where i made rich askew turn into a gibering wreck, it was around my 12-15th lap, i passed a Porshe GT3 round the outside through miss hit miss then completely forgot about werseifen and just about got away with that (on the grass just missing the armco, big lesson learnt there!), all the Bikers and regulars were then cheering as my little Westie went round the outside of a RUF Porsche with the biggest wing in the history of 911's on the entry to brunchen, end of the lap rich had 7:56 on the stopwatch
the time was wrong as rich pressed the stopwatch too soon, the camera footage showed 8:20, not too bad for an early lap being held up in traffic. Looking back at the footage now i realise just how little i knew about the place, the rally experience was useful back then. Sadly that Porsche isnt up for my use, it's one of olivers customers cars, 8:00 would be a piece of cake in that car these days. Not that i sugest timing laps as a useful thing to do, i just drive for fun when i get the chance these days. I wouldnt mind giving Paul's 700BHP Impreza another run round there one quiet day though, that should be seriously quick now it's properly sorted.
We must catch up soon Matt, we are doing the support race for the British GP so maybe see you there.
what is the best simulator to learn the circuit? GT3/4 or something else? also what would be a good car to learn it in? ie not something with big wings and slicks but something that requires a little bit more driver skill? hoping to take the 205 there in spring 08 (or whenever its built!) so knowing which corners are coming up when would be an advantage!.......
pablo said:
what is the best simulator to learn the circuit? GT3/4 or something else? also what would be a good car to learn it in? ie not something with big wings and slicks but something that requires a little bit more driver skill? hoping to take the 205 there in spring 08 (or whenever its built!) so knowing which corners are coming up when would be an advantage!.......
Well video games are not the same as personal practice on the track. Video games will not give you any feedback on any driving mistakes you make. You can not feel crests, buppery passages, oversteering, understeering, etc. Video games are just helpfull to learn which turns will come next but they are no substitute for practicing with your own car on the track. An instructor like me who hase done a few 1000 laps can give you usefull information to avoid driving mistakes.
ograms said:
pablo said:
what is the best simulator to learn the circuit? GT3/4 or something else? also what would be a good car to learn it in? ie not something with big wings and slicks but something that requires a little bit more driver skill? hoping to take the 205 there in spring 08 (or whenever its built!) so knowing which corners are coming up when would be an advantage!.......
Well video games are not the same as personal practice on the track. Video games will not give you any feedback on any driving mistakes you make. You can not feel crests, buppery passages, oversteering, understeering, etc. Video games are just helpfull to learn which turns will come next but they are no substitute for practicing with your own car on the track. An instructor like me who hase done a few 1000 laps can give you usefull information to avoid driving mistakes.
and i am sure you charge a good price too!!! i am well aware that a driving game is not the same as actually driving but as i said i want to learn my way around prior to departure rather than pay a fortune for an instructor where i will spend my first day learning what corner comes next.... if i could afford the time and money to practise on the circuit for real i would do so...
205 is mostly standard, just interior stripped, Avo shocks and 307 brake conversion, cage and a set of A539s....
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