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simon t

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2,136 posts

274 months

Friday 11th July 2003
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So..After hving my spoiler ripped off for the second time in 2 weeks by spped bumps I think its time for a plan B......

Any one any ideas? I thought about a rubber strip like on the bottom of some saloons but how would I fix it to the car?

Simon

marco

1,727 posts

285 months

Friday 11th July 2003
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Hi

Depends upon what you think the spoiler is there for.

If its aerodynamic then a chin spoiler or splitter would probably actually be more effective at diverting airflow away from the underside if you could fix it on OK.

But if you think the spoiler is where it is in order to divert a flow of air through the radiator then it probably needs to stay where it is!

Current PH thinking is that the spoiler is about 70/30 in favour of the cooling function.

Sorry ... I haven't answered your question at all have I!



Marco

simon t

Original Poster:

2,136 posts

274 months

Friday 11th July 2003
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As far as I am concerned its only there for the cooling, my car is running 5-10 C hotter since it has been 'removed'

burriana500

16,556 posts

255 months

Friday 11th July 2003
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Probably a really REALLY stupid question ...but this 'splitter' everyone keeps talking about... is that the thin strut of bodywork below the front No plate that forms the lower edge of the air intake hole? Or is it something far more technical!

simon t

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2,136 posts

274 months

Friday 11th July 2003
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That'll be it

icamm

2,153 posts

261 months

Friday 11th July 2003
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No. The "splitter" is a small piece of angled metal fitted under the car about in line with the bottom of the radiator. Your car may not have one as alot don't.

david beer

3,982 posts

268 months

Friday 11th July 2003
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You can make a simple air ram to aid the cooling, it doesnt under hang the car so it cant be knocked off!
The dimensions and pics are available.

Ballistic Banana

14,698 posts

268 months

Friday 11th July 2003
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david beer said:
You can make a simple air ram to aid the cooling, it doesnt under hang the car so it cant be knocked off!
The dimensions and pics are available.



Free at www.mod-wise.com/ under the Free Mods button

Cheers David

BB

>> Edited by Ballistic Banana (moderator) on Friday 11th July 21:27

davidn

1,028 posts

260 months

Saturday 12th July 2003
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How about hinged and spring loaded splitter, although this may breach current F1 regulations as it constitutes a moveable aerodynamic device

simpo one

85,547 posts

266 months

Saturday 12th July 2003
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Change your name to 'M Schumacher' and you can breach as many regs as you like!

rolfe

167 posts

253 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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At rhe risk of appearing stupid I do not understand the mod-wise spoiler instructions. Does the spoiler fit on the outside of the body or the inside? Where on earth does the lead flashing fit? Does the splitter have sides? What are the cut outs for? Is it worth the hassle?
Dave

GreenV8S

30,210 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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I think you should be able to work it out if you look at the pictures. It looks as if it would improve the air flow into the lower air intake quite usefully. I can't help thinking that the main problem here is the number plate still blocks off 95% of the main air intake though! This is definitely the way to go though. The air flow through the rad went up by a staggering 300% when I put the splitter on the V8S.

ATG

20,616 posts

273 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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Peter, could you describe your splitter?

HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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ATG said:
Peter, could you describe your splitter?

Please do, are we talking about the plank you had on at Zolda or something more subtle.

Harry

Guillotine

5,516 posts

265 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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I've developed a twin splitter with PENINSULA. It'll be at the Gang on the Green thing this weekend, for those of you who are there.

Basically the problem is the angle of the rad. The air is forced down by the No plate, and as the radiator is at 120 degrees approx, is deflected further...straight under the car!!!

this gives bad airflow thru the rad AND LIFT !

the splitters devide the airflow into three parts. giving increased airflow thru the WHOLE of the rad. ALSO splitting the air correctly, so reducing lift.

can't put pictures up at the mo as i believe stuff will be appearing via peninsula / pistonheads.

but it does work and its been speed / temp tested to a sustained 160mph...

we have the photo's

so keep an eye out for the Peninsula info.

andyr

by the way, the cars lines are not spoiled at all, it can be removed completely in around 15 mins, and is practically invisible!!

AND IT WON'T COST THE EARTH!

Rolfe

167 posts

253 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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Give us a rough idea of how much less than the earth it may cost!!!!

FourWheelDrift

88,556 posts

285 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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I've always been led to believe it's to aid oil cooling. I have driven without one though (took mine off parking frontways into a space on a kerb - bloody handbrake) and never had an increase of temperature. But then never went quick enough to know if it was aerodynamic.

If it's there it's there for a reason, I should guess though it's not too specially designed and any 1-3 inch strip thats not going to bend in fast flowing air will do the job.

As for fixing possibly araldite or other plastic glues (don't know others but there is definately the right type out there to use - anyone ???)

Lake

486 posts

265 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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FourWheelDrift said:
As for fixing possibly araldite or other plastic glues (don't know others but there is definately the right type out there to use - anyone ???)


Personally I would not use glue/araldite, the splitter is £0.50p worth of tin bent along its length. The body it is attached to is quite a bit more expensive. When I finaly get around to fitting a new one to my griff, I will want to know that if I hit something with it, it is going to be the splitter the comes of worse, without taking body with it.

Just a thought...

Ian

FourWheelDrift

88,556 posts

285 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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Lake said:

FourWheelDrift said:
As for fixing possibly araldite or other plastic glues (don't know others but there is definately the right type out there to use - anyone ???)



Personally I would not use glue/araldite, the splitter is £0.50p worth of tin bent along its length. The body it is attached to is quite a bit more expensive. When I finaly get around to fitting a new one to my griff, I will want to know that if I hit something with it, it is going to be the splitter the comes of worse, without taking body with it.

Just a thought...

Ian


I would have said use wood screws as that's how their built

But I was thinking if someone was thinking about fitting a rubber replacement rather than the tin metal standard one. Not sure the best way to fix it if rubber so suggested araldite to try to get a response of..."....xxxxx is better."

RichB

51,615 posts

285 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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Guillotine said:
I've developed a twin splitter with PENINSULA. It'll be at the Gang on the Green thing this weekend, for those of you who are there.
Andy - I'd like to chat to you about this, I'll be on the green on Sunday and at Crissways for a beer or two Sat eve. What's your car? Rich... (a griff obviously but how will I know you?)