[PetrolTed]

quote:Just received a nice picture of the back of my car with a statement of doing 51MPH in a 30MPH limit. Essex constabularies finest doing a stirling deed of hiding behind a hedge down a side street to photograph unlucky individuals. Need advice as to how to proceed and whether the new law of self incrimination could have any effect.

We're all in favour of more intelligence being applied to speeding enforcement, but over 50 in a 30mph? I don't know the road in question so I'll resist the temptation to be too judgemental, but...

[craigw]

I'm in court next week - 82 in a 50 (dual carriageway) so guess I won't be out playing for a while!!

[PetrolTed]

Mind you I can't talk - I got flashed for the umpteenth time last week. 90+ on the M25 at 11:30pm. My luck will run out soon...

[Nightmare]

Im almost totally certain that Steff is right - sure it was overturned...and not being funny, but a bloody good thing too. I equally hate the 'speed cameras hidden in hedges' innapropriate use etc etc, but getting off on any crime via a totally boll**s technicality judgement from Brussels is wrong...and pathetic (in my view) Its as bad as that scum who was let off on an open and shut rape case because the police shouldnt have had his DNA on file as he was never convicted of the burglary he was previously tried for...SO WHAT.... could get quite angry abiout this.......sorry Night p.s. Steve B...er...thats a new one on me. It would have to be 83, as 73 wouldnt be a crime (well ti would but...) I dont know if you can avoid responding to the NIP completely though - might be considered bad manners, but then its obviously wrong...er....

[mel]

Going all the way back to the original post even though this advise may be far to late. I had almost exactly the same thing the NIP stated I was doing 67mph in a 70mph limit (I knew it was a typo as I'd seen the photo in plods car at the time) my initial reaction was "walk in the park I'll get off with this one" However the options are "guilty by post" ?????? guilty of what ? "Guilty and appear" ????? same question but atleast your there or "not guilty" it goes to court the defense produce the pics and you go down... The legal advice I got was go to court plead guilty stand up say what a farce it all is and why the hell have you been dragged to court for a clear cock up by incompetet plod that way the magistrates should make a decision there and then and as the police won't be present you've got a good chance of getting off. However possible down side is they may adjourn give the prosecution chance to represent, call you back again, decide your a sneaky twat, knew what you were doing and just trying it on and clobber you !!!!! Magistrates generally fall into two schools the "power crazy send them down, police are the best thing since sliced bread and your only there because your guilty Colonal Mustard types" or the "liberal sandal wearers who thing the police are all fascist bully boys who opress the workers and unless its water tight and they have no option or have damaged a tree/fury animal or offended there vegan beliefs" will let you off.... Bit of a lottery then..Well who else would give up 1 day a week for no money !!!!! I personnally decided that as I was lined up for a £40 3 points and had a clean license I couldn't be arsed to drive the 150 odd miles, day of work and all that just to be patronised by the above, so put in guilty by post with a big note saying it wasn't worth coming up in person and that if I am guilty of what offence etc etc. They adjourned, plod represented got a bol****ing from magistrates who then said token £40 fine no points as I'd been messed about so much !!! Which worked out cheaper in the long run than going to court all depends on you really. I knew I was speeding and got caught but just tried it on a bit to get it reduced and it worked but don't expect to get off scott free....good luck

[Cotty]

quote:Yeah maybe he does deserver it but surely fewer people would speed if the cameras were made obvious. Fewer speeders = fewer accidents = fewer deaths. Oh and less money for the police....ah, now I see why they hide!

I think we should all carry a can of bright yellow paint and when ever we see a camera spray it so other motorists can see them from a distance Or spray the hedge or sign its hiding behind Paul

[jimbo]

I think we should all carry a tin of Black paint, and should spray the lenses of all speed cameras. If enough of us do it there would be uproar. Jim P.S no lectures please about criminal damage e.t.c.

[Paul V]

quote:I think we should all carry a tin of Black paint, and should spray the lenses of all speed cameras. If enough of us do it there would be uproar. Jim P.S no lectures please about criminal damage e.t.c.

Now that sounds like a bloody good idea, if you got a template the right size to fit over the lens so to get no over spray then they might not notice till they get a load of blank pics

[mags]

Good idea! Who is going to measure the glass size and cut a load of black vinyl stickers then? Ted?

[macwalsh]

I can't be ars*d with all the mess from spray paint - I would have thought that a 4inch square of cardboard stuck to the lens with a bit of chewing gum does the same job - and a lot less messy

[steve-p]

In Italy motorists have been known to use shotguns on Gatsos that have flashed at them. Wouldn't a hammer be much quicker and easier than messing about with paint, cardboard or stickers etc?

[Paul V]

Nah smash it up and they’ll see that straight away, you need it to look like it’ll still works, the problem with that is you won’t know when they’ve fixed it though, there are a few in the Dartford area with “kill a camera” sprayed across them.

[jimbo]

I wonder what the legal implications of just sticking something on the lens with some sort of non-damaging agent, surely they couldn't do you for any sort of criminal damage - maybe obstructing the course of justice or something as daft. Who's up for it ? Jim

[rossc]

It was pointed out to me that a can of expanding foam filler emptied into the camera thru one of the little vents would trash the whole thing fairly effectively......how often are they going to replace them at 20k a pop....not that i'd ever think of doing anything so juvenile......much

[rossc]

Failing that, how about a few drive by shootings with a paintball gun ? Excellent entertainment !

[john robson]

How about slowing down a bit, (only joking girls) Edited by john robson on Friday 29th June 10:19

[.mark]

No joking John I think you are right mate! A bit of common might not go amiss here. Mind you when did common sense come in to it when half these cameras were installed!!!

[Bjwoods]

Apparently there are NO speed cameras in Sweden. (they had trials) A large proportion of the public have high powered rifles. B

[Paul V]

quote:How about slowing down a bit, (only joking girls) Edited by john robson on Friday 29th June 10:19

If we all did that you’d be out of a job.

[mel]

If anyone has ever used Datatag to etch glass you'll know there's always loads left over and its great for lenses. But not on Gatso's obviously that would criminal damage.