Specification question

Specification question

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the muppet

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650 posts

192 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Apologies if this has been done to death already, but what Aussie market model is the equivalent to the UK spec 2004 VXR?

Many thanks...

caspy@wortec

141 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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HSV GTO

the muppet

Original Poster:

650 posts

192 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Thanks for the prompt reply. No idea why there is a heart next to the post. I guess the kW is 280??

Gelf VXR

713 posts

208 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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I recently had a red 18 appear next to one of my posts, I guess it was because I was being obscene when I made reference to Halfrauds LOL

the muppet

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650 posts

192 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Halfords slogan "We're even worse than you expected" lol

motomk

2,153 posts

245 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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the muppet said:
Thanks for the prompt reply. No idea why there is a heart next to the post. I guess the kW is 280??


285kw....for that years HSV GTO



tim the pool man

4,869 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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the muppet said:
Apologies if this has been done to death already, but what Aussie market model is the equivalent to the UK spec 2004 VXR?

Many thanks...
I keep saying this, but the models don't change with the year. In 04 they finished making the VY Commodore (V2 Monaro?) and started making the VZ.

An 04 built VXR could have LS1 at 260KW (349BHP) or LS2 at 297KW (398BHP).

the muppet

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650 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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tim the pool man said:
the muppet said:
Apologies if this has been done to death already, but what Aussie market model is the equivalent to the UK spec 2004 VXR?

Many thanks...
I keep saying this, but the models don't change with the year. In 04 they finished making the VY Commodore (V2 Monaro?) and started making the VZ.

An 04 built VXR could have LS1 at 260KW (349BHP) or LS2 at 297KW (398BHP).
How do you identify an LS1 from an LS2? Are there any obvious differences between a VY and a VZ? I'm intrigued now....

caspy@wortec

141 posts

196 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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tim the pool man said:
the muppet said:
Apologies if this has been done to death already, but what Aussie market model is the equivalent to the UK spec 2004 VXR?

Many thanks...


I keep saying this, but the models don't change with the year. In 04 they finished making the VY Commodore (V2 Monaro?) and started making the VZ.

An 04 built VXR could have LS1 at 260KW (349BHP) or LS2 at 297KW (398BHP).


In the UK there were no VZ models in 2005, the 2004 VXR was the 5.7 for clarity! The first 6.0 cars arrived at dealers in late July/early August 2005.

crisisjez

9,209 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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tim the pool man said:


I keep saying this, but the models don't change with the year. In 04 they finished making the VY Commodore (V2 Monaro?) and started making the VZ.

An 04 built VXR could have LS1 at 260KW (349BHP) or LS2 at 297KW (398BHP).


True, but over here we associate an 04 VXR with the 5.7l header big boot single exhaust 380BHP jobby which IMO is the finest car. (But only unmodded)

the muppet

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650 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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My April 04 "VXR" has the big boot, merged exhaust and flat bonnet. VY with LS1 by implication?

motomk

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245 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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the muppet said:
My April 04 "VXR" has the big boot, merged exhaust and flat bonnet. VY with LS1 by implication?


V2 series III HSV GTO equivalent...LS1 powered. 285kw. The equivalent Commodore was the VYII.

tim the pool man

4,869 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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motomk said:
the muppet said:
My April 04 "VXR" has the big boot, merged exhaust and flat bonnet. VY with LS1 by implication?
V2 series III HSV GTO equivalent...LS1 powered. 285kw. The equivalent Commodore was the VYII.
I wonder why they used the "V2" designation for the Monaro from 2001 to 2004 instead of the corresponding Commodore tag? I guess it means V series 2 door, but then they called the Oct04 model "VZ" the same as the 4 door...

I get my specs from redbook, don't know how accurate they are, but it shows the V2seriesIII GTO as 260KW and the GTS coupe as 300KW. IIRC the VY Clubsport R8 had 285KW though...

motomk

2,153 posts

245 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
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tim the pool man said:
motomk said:
the muppet said:
My April 04 "VXR" has the big boot, merged exhaust and flat bonnet. VY with LS1 by implication?


V2 series III HSV GTO equivalent...LS1 powered. 285kw. The equivalent Commodore was the VYII.



I wonder why they used the "V2" designation for the Monaro from 2001 to 2004 instead of the corresponding Commodore tag? I guess it means V series 2 door, but then they called the Oct04 model "VZ" the same as the 4 door...

I get my specs from redbook, don't know how accurate they are, but it shows the V2seriesIII GTO as 260KW and the GTS coupe as 300KW. IIRC the VY Clubsport R8 had 285KW though...


I have read somewhere that the UK cars had 510nm which would indicate they where the 285kw engine, but redbook is puzzling.
If you go back to September 2003 the V2 series 3 HSV GTO LE has 285kw but then as you have said forward 5 months and it is indicating 260kw. Very odd to go backwards.
www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/vehicle/specs.php?id=71517
I can only find one 2004 v2 series 3 HSV GTO car on carpoint and that is in WA but is is really hard to see the power numbers above the side indicator.

Sorry "the muppet", me and tim will get back to you when we have worked it out!!!

the muppet

Original Poster:

650 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
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motomk said:
tim the pool man said:
motomk said:
the muppet said:
My April 04 "VXR" has the big boot, merged exhaust and flat bonnet. VY with LS1 by implication?
V2 series III HSV GTO equivalent...LS1 powered. 285kw. The equivalent Commodore was the VYII.
I wonder why they used the "V2" designation for the Monaro from 2001 to 2004 instead of the corresponding Commodore tag? I guess it means V series 2 door, but then they called the Oct04 model "VZ" the same as the 4 door...

I get my specs from redbook, don't know how accurate they are, but it shows the V2seriesIII GTO as 260KW and the GTS coupe as 300KW. IIRC the VY Clubsport R8 had 285KW though...
I have read somewhere that the UK cars had 510nm which would indicate they where the 285kw engine, but redbook is puzzling.
If you go back to September 2003 the V2 series 3 HSV GTO LE has 285kw but then as you have said forward 5 months and it is indicating 260kw. Very odd to go backwards.
http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/vehicle/specs...
I can only find one 2004 v2 series 3 HSV GTO car on carpoint and that is in WA but is is really hard to see the power numbers above the side indicator.

Sorry "the muppet", me and tim will get back to you when we have worked it out!!!

Hi motomk, thanks for the research. I'm sure i've seen that 510nm figure in a car comic somewhere too. So many variations on a common theme!!

raggyman

2,317 posts

244 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
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tim the pool man said:
motomk said:
the muppet said:
My April 04 "VXR" has the big boot, merged exhaust and flat bonnet. VY with LS1 by implication?


V2 series III HSV GTO equivalent...LS1 powered. 285kw. The equivalent Commodore was the VYII.



I wonder why they used the "V2" designation for the Monaro from 2001 to 2004 instead of the corresponding Commodore tag? I guess it means V series 2 door, but then they called the Oct04 model "VZ" the same as the 4 door...

I get my specs from redbook, don't know how accurate they are, but it shows the V2seriesIII GTO as 260KW and the GTS coupe as 300KW. IIRC the VY Clubsport R8 had 285KW though...


The V2 I think came because they were based on the VX series 2 commodore. They don't ever as far as I know, they don't call them the same, even though they have the same shape. VU was for the ute. They started out with VB, VC, VN, VP, VS,VR,VT,VX,VY,VZ,VE. (might have missed some). There was a bit of talk of what they were going to call it after the VZ... cause they ran out of letters..


the muppet

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650 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
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Ran out of letters! lol, I never even considered that! Makes you wonder what BMW will market in 4 years time to slot in below the 1 series.

tim the pool man

4,869 posts

218 months

Saturday 24th May 2008
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raggyman said:
...They started out with VB, VC, VH, VK, VL, VN, VP, VR,VS,VT,VX,VY,VZ,VE. (might have missed some). There was a bit of talk of what they were going to call it after the VZ... cause they ran out of letters..
Addes a few and swapped VR & VS

ringram

14,700 posts

249 months

Saturday 24th May 2008
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And dont forget the significant VK 1/2 which was the first injected engine smile Basially black block 3.3L I6
Before they dumped the holden engine and went nissan for the VL then to a buick based v6 for the VN.
I used to own one with a trimatic. Somewhere mid 80's from memory