Top Gear Caterham build

Top Gear Caterham build

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NiceCupOfTea

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25,289 posts

251 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Was just watching this on Dave, Clarkson is a total pain in the arse and May basically does it all on his own.

Does anybody know the real story behind this? Somehow I doubt the 3 of them did it in 6 hours or whatever with no outside help to get the car to a roadworthy condition.

I would imagine it then got stripped down completely and rebuilt properly?

Or was the whole thing a complete Jackanory?

timlongs

1,728 posts

179 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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He did fit the seats! Backwards...

Chris71

21,536 posts

242 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I dunno. You do get people building Caterhams in a weekend if they have all the bits prepared in a box and the right tools etc. It's going back a bit but my dad's TVR (thought to be the last supplied in kit form) was built in a weekend.

Not sure I'd trust Clarkson et al to do so though. wink

RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I've just watched that and wondering the same thing smile In the past I've seen competitions where teams of pro race team mechanics build one in about that time, but I can't picture May, Clarkson and Hammond managing it in 6 hours. As with most things on Top Gear, I presume it's scripted and staged smile

Dracoro

8,683 posts

245 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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They sure as well cut corners too, just look how much of a pig it was to drive, he couldn't keep it straight.

So yes, I believe they can do it in a day. Not particularly well but stil possible.

They probably would have seen the build plans, had some guidance beforehand so they knew sort of what they were supposed to do, all the tools/parts laid out correctly etc.

Apart from that, no doubt Clarkson and Hammond did their bit then filmed/edited the c0cking around bits for the TV to make it LOOK like May did everything etc.

RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Dracoro said:
They sure as well cut corners too, just look how much of a pig it was to drive, he couldn't keep it straight.
I think you'll find that's just Clarkson wink

Jasandjules

69,913 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Dracoro said:
Apart from that, no doubt Clarkson and Hammond did their bit then filmed/edited the c0cking around bits for the TV to make it LOOK like May did everything etc.
I suspect that it's more likely that they f***ed and farted around a bit, then a couple of caterham mechanics put a few more bits on.......

NiceCupOfTea

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25,289 posts

251 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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RobM77 said:
As with most things on Top Gear, I presume it's scripted and staged smile
I guess so - a bit of a shame in a way, I would love to see if it was doable!

I would trust May to do it, maybe even Hammond, but if Clarkson had touched one bolt...! wink

RacerMDR

5,507 posts

210 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I believe they were supplied three cars from Caterham - all prebuilt

then Caterham 'unbuilt' them - in varying levels of lumps.

I.e. - when I built mine - it took me quite a while to do things like suspension etc Whereas the chasis came with these things already done - and all they had to do was bolt them on etc.

the usual TopGear bks (i do love it though)

For the record - i spend 3 months really enjoying my build.......

my mate - who comes on here alot and is a professional mechanic and Caterham race team owner - built his first one in 3 days I think. From boxes to finished. That was with no use of the Caterham guide - as that tends to be completely wrong and hinders rather than helps.

I'm sure Caterham chaps themselves once told me its about 12-15 hours from scratch for them.

So three muppets who know nothing about cars, six hours.........eh, no.....didn't happen biggrin

XitUp

7,690 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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NiceCupOfTea said:
Or was the whole thing a complete Jackanory?
It was Top Gear. It's not a factual show and hasn't been for a very long time.

timlongs

1,728 posts

179 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I thought it took them 8 hours, but still, obviously they didn't do it.

I love it when Clarkson goes: "And May trained as a pianist"

Tigercat1

34 posts

182 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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There were 2 Caterham mechanics behind the scenes in the making of this programme, I am suprised Caterhams allowed Top Gear and the 3 numpties the oppertunity to show their cars in this light.
From a safety point of view they would have to have a big input.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

209 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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The races are supposedly seeded in such a way that they build drama but are never fully fixed, i.e if they want to favour one side they may pick a start location or time that means the favoured party can get straight on with their journey while the opposition have to wait, rush or be lucky to get a good start. This is according to the interview on Radio 4 a couple of days ago. So the Caterham may have been pre built then stripped or had more bits in a "modular" setup, and i suspect a full tool kit including all required tools.

Drebin

98 posts

184 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I don't believe it could be done in 6 hours. But not all of them are completely useless. Hammond has several kit cars, so I'm lead to believe.

Also, even from the programme you could see lots of it was done. The body was already on for example. That, and as somebody above said, he wasn't built well. It didn't even need to be road legal.
Good episode though. Stig's one made a lovely soundcloud9

XitUp

7,690 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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The races make no sense. They always use a supercar as if it's the only thing fast enough to beat the plane/boat/whatever...but the camera van seems to keep up quite well.

It's very scripted.

djmck30

258 posts

186 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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XitUp said:
The races make no sense. They always use a supercar as if it's the only thing fast enough to beat the plane/boat/whatever...but the camera van seems to keep up quite well.

It's very scripted.


I was always under the impression that the camera bits featuring the car in question were filmed seperatley (on the way back, for example)?

NiceCupOfTea

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25,289 posts

251 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Some interesting insights there guys, thanks!

XitUp said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
Or was the whole thing a complete Jackanory?
It was Top Gear. It's not a factual show and hasn't been for a very long time.
Yes, we all know it's staged! I was wondering just how staged though. Clearly very, in this case. Shame, it loses something when it's a complete fabrication. In the early episodes before it became clear just how much dramatic licence they took, I thought it was a lot better. I think it was the caravan one where they set fire to it that was the crunch point where I was unable to suspend the disbelief any more frown

XitUp

7,690 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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As it's fixed I guess it doesn't really matter when they film bits.

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

256 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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djmck30 said:
XitUp said:
The races make no sense. They always use a supercar as if it's the only thing fast enough to beat the plane/boat/whatever...but the camera van seems to keep up quite well.

It's very scripted.


I was always under the impression that the camera bits featuring the car in question were filmed seperatley (on the way back, for example)?
yes They are wink

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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One day I'll get myself on TG...and then smile at these threads, knowing how they're shot but not telling biggrin