Marina conditions

[Simpo Two]

Pondering a boat, pondering a marina to keep it in. Happy to pay for a year in advance and even happy to give three month's notice - but compulsory brokerage?

marina website said:

XXX mooring fees are per year payment in advance with no refunds. three months notice prior to your mooring agreement terminating in writing is required should you not wish to renew.

No vessel moored at XXX shall be advertised or offered for sale privately without prior termination of the mooring contract and removal of the said vessel from the premises.

Brokerage

XXX offers a brokerage facility at the following fees.
8% on the first £2,000
5% on the £2,000 -£10,000
4% on the remainder

Can they actually stop me selling my own boat? Shouldn't the brokerage service be optional or this this standard practice? How am I supposed to 'remove the said vessel from the said premises' without getting tied up in an other marina contract?

From speaking to several sellers of boats, most brokers do little to earn their fee.

[24lemons]

I've not come across that before. Our marina has a brokerage but people regularly sell their boats privately. I suppose its up to each marina to decide their T's and C's though.

[F i F]

What about T&Cs for maintenance? Can be awkward if they have a clause in about that and you want a specialist in and the marina gets arsey about not going through them.

[Simpo Two]

This is more a 'one man and his dog' marina (ie a hole in the ground) than a spangly outfit with silver-plated Tequila dispensers. The owner is very familar with the marque so I'm perfectly happy to use his services, in fact an on-site spanner-fellow is a significant benefit.

[maser_spyder]

Reason enough to look for a different marina methinks.

What a ridiculous term/condition.

Marinas aren't as full as they were a couple of years ago, I did some shopping around last year and found parking spaces were readily available, and that's on the south coast....

[Simpo Two]

Excellent, thanks Maser. We'll regard the T&Cs as a 'starting point' then

[maser_spyder]

Actually, those brokerage fees aren't too bad, about normal from experience.

But hardly an incentive to move in, knowing you won't be able to move out unless they sell your boat for you. It's hardly an incentive for them to get their finger out.

I've stayed in lots of marinas, and Scant Reward has been home in four since our guardianship, my experience says spend the extra and go for a nice one. You never regret the extra few quid on decent facilities and a nice location.

Exception to that rule is abroad, where the smaller marinas are generally nicer than the big plush ones!

[Simpo Two]

maser_spyder said:

But hardly an incentive to move in, knowing you won't be able to move out unless they sell your boat for you.

Yep, sounds like a 'restrictive practice' to me but I wanted to know what the industry norm was.

I'd be perfectly happy to sell it on eBay. Don't need to pay a broker £500. A few will take you out for a spin, most will show you the boat, but some just give you the owner's phone number! In these internet days I think a little more effort is required. And of course a broker offers no warranty or any extra value.

Edited by Simpo Two on Tuesday 27th July 22:48

[maser_spyder]

Simpo Two said:

maser_spyder said:

But hardly an incentive to move in, knowing you won't be able to move out unless they sell your boat for you.

Yep, sounds like a 'restrictive practice' to me but I wanted to know what the industry norm was.

I'd be perfectly happy to sell it on eBay. Don't need to pay a broker £500. A few will take you out for a spin, most will show you the boat, but some just give you the owner's phone number! In these internet days I think a little more effort is required. And of course a broker offers no warranty or any extra value.

Edited by Simpo Two on Tuesday 27th July 22:48

Anyway, all this talk of parking spaces, what about the nitty gritty?

What's the boat?

[Simpo Two]

maser_spyder said:

What's the boat?

Nothing by your standards I'm sure, a humble yet classic Freeman for inland use. Just proving a bit tricky finding one in good condition with the extras I want but no DIY bodges. Call it a coward's version of the 'wilderness experience'!

[maser_spyder]

Simpo Two said:

maser_spyder said:

What's the boat?

Nothing by your standards I'm sure, a humble yet classic Freeman for inland use. Just proving a bit tricky finding one in good condition with the extras I want but no DIY bodges. Call it a coward's version of the 'wilderness experience'!

Ah, nuts to standards, I'd go sailing in a bathtub with a broomstick and some bed sheets, it's just as much fun.

'Classic' or 'New Style' range?

So, just to clear this up, you want one without any bodges so you can carry them out yourself?



Sounds like my sort of project