Red Arrows grounded

[Ricepilot]

Forgive the sensationalist thread topic but thought I'd bring this up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wale...

Seems all Hawks are grounded across the country. At least they have about a week to get a fix before Cowes.

[Viperzs]

They should use some of the Typhoons that aren't being used. Their display would be awesome with them

[Eric Mc]

Like this one?

[perdu]

Eric Mc said:

Like this one?

Except that the Reds would make the fin flash more symmetrical...



I liked this on the thread in "the Other place" too Eric

He has done a very good job with it

[Eric Mc]

It is nice. Pity the MoD woudn't have the budget to fund a 9 ship Typhoon Red Arrows team.

[eharding]

Eric Mc said:

It is nice. Pity the MoD woudn't have the budget to fund a 9 ship Typhoon Red Arrows team.

God, Yaweh, Allah, Elvis - however you choose to designate the omnipotent, omnipresent deity - well, He doesn't have enough money to run a 9 ship Typhoon formation aerobatic team for a season....let alone the MoD having the readies.

[Eric Mc]

That type of largess disappeared with the arrival of the Lightning in RAF service almost 50 odd years ago.

I think we had three or four seasons of Lightning display teams before it was decided they were too big and powerful for team aerobatics and too expensive to operate in that role.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 29th July 09:35

[andy97]

I'll besurprised if the "Reds" survive the Security & Defence Review. I predict a return to the "Black Arrows" with instructors from RAF Valley doing routines in their "spare" time.

Far more important is the fact that its all Hawks that are grounded, not just the Red ones.

[Simpo Two]

eharding said:

God, Yaweh, Allah, Elvis - however you choose to designate the omnipotent, omnipresent deity - well, He doesn't have enough money to run a 9 ship Typhoon formation aerobatic team for a season....let alone the MoD having the readies.

A team descending from the heavens with 'GAF' on them (God Air Force) would at least help prove the existence of said deity!

Edited by Simpo Two on Thursday 29th July 09:41

[richw_82]

Simpo Two said:

eharding said:

God, Yaweh, Allah, Elvis - however you choose to designate the omnipotent, omnipresent deity - well, He doesn't have enough money to run a 9 ship Typhoon formation aerobatic team for a season....let alone the MoD having the readies.

A team descending from the heavens with 'GAF' on them (God Air Force) would at least help prove the existence of said deity!

Edited by Simpo Two on Thursday 29th July 09:41

God would be flying a Lightning anyway... no need for the Typhoons.

[Eric Mc]

He'd only have 15 minutes to perform his miracles.

[Blib]

andy97 said:

I'll besurprised if the "Reds" survive the Security & Defence Review. I predict a return to the "Black Arrows" with instructors from RAF Valley doing routines in their "spare" time.

Far more important is the fact that its all Hawks that are grounded, not just the Red ones.

No politician would be that crazy.

The Reds are as much a symbol of Britain as Big Ben.

[Lost soul]

Viperzs said:

They should use some of the Typhoons that aren't being used. Their display would be awesome with them

Not being used ???

[Simpo Two]

Lost soul said:

Viperzs said:

They should use some of the Typhoons that aren't being used. Their display would be awesome with them

Not being used ???

Defence cuts you know.

[Lost soul]

Simpo Two said:

Lost soul said:

Viperzs said:

They should use some of the Typhoons that aren't being used. Their display would be awesome with them

Not being used ???

Defence cuts you know.

Great pic by the way

[andy97]

Lost soul said:

Viperzs said:

They should use some of the Typhoons that aren't being used. Their display would be awesome with them

Not being used ???

The Govt have ordered far more than they can now afford, or are predicted to need. Don't be surprised if Tranche 3 gets sold.

[andy97]

Blib said:

andy97 said:

I'll besurprised if the "Reds" survive the Security & Defence Review. I predict a return to the "Black Arrows" with instructors from RAF Valley doing routines in their "spare" time.

Far more important is the fact that its all Hawks that are grounded, not just the Red ones.

No politician would be that crazy.

The Reds are as much a symbol of Britain as Big Ben.

You may not have noticed but the country is broke. They said a similar things about the Royal Yacht & now she is a museum piece in Leith.

Standby for some very harsh choices to have to be made. The Reds are great but the defence budget is under threat to the tune of a 20-25%; if that comes to pass then CAS will have to decide between, say, the Red Arrows and dropping an element of the air forces combat capability; what should he do? Delivering combat capability is waht the RAF has to deliver.

Perhaps BAe, R-R & the FCO should foot the majority of the Reds' bill?

[Lost soul]

andy97 said:

Blib said:

andy97 said:

I'll besurprised if the "Reds" survive the Security & Defence Review. I predict a return to the "Black Arrows" with instructors from RAF Valley doing routines in their "spare" time.

Far more important is the fact that its all Hawks that are grounded, not just the Red ones.

No politician would be that crazy.

The Reds are as much a symbol of Britain as Big Ben.

You may not have noticed but the country is broke. They said a similar things about the Royal Yacht & now she is a museum piece in Leith.

Standby for some very harsh choices to have to be made. The Reds are great but the defence budget is under threat to the tune of a 20-25%; if that comes to pass then CAS will have to decide between, say, the Red Arrows and dropping an element of the air forces combat capability; what should he do? Delivering combat capability is waht the RAF has to deliver.

Perhaps BAe, R-R & the FCO should foot the majority of the Reds' bill?

Well we jut got a nice big fat order from India worth 800m but ,, oh hold on how much aid do we give to India oh yes thats right 900m doh