Cyber Security Challenge
Discussion
Anyone else seen this and is thinking of having a go?
Theres a just for fun page too....
https://cybersecuritychallenge.org.uk/cipher.html
Yes it is very geeky. (And the joke isn't funny in the end either)
Anyone fancy doing the team challenge?
Theres a just for fun page too....
https://cybersecuritychallenge.org.uk/cipher.html
Yes it is very geeky. (And the joke isn't funny in the end either)
Anyone fancy doing the team challenge?
- bugger....should have probably put this in the computers section
Edited by cazzer on Wednesday 28th July 14:27
TBH, the biggest challenge was in my mind.
Could I be bothered to try?
The more difficult problems.... You really have to want to spend your life solving them. Either that, or, you have to have a desperate need.
Then there's the question. Do you really know who you're solving them for?
Fighting off the competition, not sure you're competent. You have to beg them to support you. That's not for me. Not unless they ask, and they won't.
The people that really want to know... They don't realise who it is that is watching them. They don't know, because they have to beg their masters. They, will only beg for the things they want to know.
The reality is that they should be asked, to find out the things they don't want to know.
Command and control... It's the only way.
Could I be bothered to try?
The more difficult problems.... You really have to want to spend your life solving them. Either that, or, you have to have a desperate need.
Then there's the question. Do you really know who you're solving them for?
Fighting off the competition, not sure you're competent. You have to beg them to support you. That's not for me. Not unless they ask, and they won't.
The people that really want to know... They don't realise who it is that is watching them. They don't know, because they have to beg their masters. They, will only beg for the things they want to know.
The reality is that they should be asked, to find out the things they don't want to know.
Command and control... It's the only way.
Edited by dilbert on Wednesday 28th July 15:25
Arese said:
Go on, I give up.
SPOILER
It's a jpg file, right? So I copy and paste it into Notepad, then save it as a .jpg file, but it won't open. Is it something to do with encoding?
I think you can only ask questions like that by secure e-mail!SPOILER
It's a jpg file, right? So I copy and paste it into Notepad, then save it as a .jpg file, but it won't open. Is it something to do with encoding?
Edited by Arese on Wednesday 28th July 15:51
dilbert said:
Arese said:
Go on, I give up.
SPOILER
It's a jpg file, right? So I copy and paste it into Notepad, then save it as a .jpg file, but it won't open. Is it something to do with encoding?
I think you can only ask questions like that by secure e-mail!SPOILER
It's a jpg file, right? So I copy and paste it into Notepad, then save it as a .jpg file, but it won't open. Is it something to do with encoding?
Edited by Arese on Wednesday 28th July 15:51
Arese said:
dilbert said:
Arese said:
Go on, I give up.
SPOILER
It's a jpg file, right? So I copy and paste it into Notepad, then save it as a .jpg file, but it won't open. Is it something to do with encoding?
I think you can only ask questions like that by secure e-mail!SPOILER
It's a jpg file, right? So I copy and paste it into Notepad, then save it as a .jpg file, but it won't open. Is it something to do with encoding?
Edited by Arese on Wednesday 28th July 15:51
Someone else posted useful information here, but it's a mistake to think that the world of cyber security is inclusive.
dilbert said:
Arese said:
dilbert said:
Arese said:
Go on, I give up.
SPOILER
It's a jpg file, right? So I copy and paste it into Notepad, then save it as a .jpg file, but it won't open. Is it something to do with encoding?
I think you can only ask questions like that by secure e-mail!SPOILER
It's a jpg file, right? So I copy and paste it into Notepad, then save it as a .jpg file, but it won't open. Is it something to do with encoding?
Edited by Arese on Wednesday 28th July 15:51
Someone else posted useful information here, but it's a mistake to think that the world of cyber security is inclusive.
Damn you, stop making me think!!I'm on it.
I thought I might cite a bit of an example about what you might be getting involved with in all of this.
A few years back now, I was sitting in an MoD PsyOps training centre, undergoing a training course.
The basic premise of the training course was that we were being taught;
They gave us a single document between all of us, a whiteboard, some tables and chairs. We had to figure out what was going on, on the basis of the document, and the reading we'd done the night before. The subject matter isn't important. In my opinion, there weren't any conclusions to be drawn, but the examiners wanted to see what would happen, as they wound the pressure up.
It was a competition between our group, and the three or so others. We had about an hour. Periodically the examiners would enter the room briefly and increase the sense of urgency.
The military personnel immediately took charge. They owned the document. The civilian staff were not allowed access to the document, so all we had to work from was what they wrote on the whiteboard.
Not being particularly forward, I sat and listened patiently. It became rapidly apparent that the military personnel present were beginning not only to invent things, but invent things that weren't self consistent. From plausible to bizarre.
I was unhappy, that we only had this single copy of the source document. I suggested I take the bits that no-one else was using, and go and get them photocopied. That way we would all have something to work from. They didn't like it, but I took it anyway. Outside the traing room I bumped into one of the examiners, who explained that I couldn't use the photocopier, as it was against the rules of the test. Confirmation then. Confirmation that the test had intentionally given us too little information.
At some point I suggested that that the "presentation" we were being given by the military sub group was not only irrational, but incomprehensible. I explained to our leader that not only was he monopolising the source data, but in addition that the conclusions he was drawing were wrong.
The military guy took offence, and he told me (quit angrily) that he was the military man. (I can't remember his rank, I think he was a Staff Sergeant, whereas my civvy equivalent rank was Major. Because he was the military man he was in charge. I had to take orders! Poor thing!
I explained to him that as a civilian I didn't have to take orders from anyone. I left.
When I got back half an hour later they'd all finished, and no-one said a thing.
My conclusion? Addressing the purpose of the course;
There will be pockets where the system works. But it's more or less why I left.
A few years back now, I was sitting in an MoD PsyOps training centre, undergoing a training course.
The basic premise of the training course was that we were being taught;
- to think innovatively
- not to draw conclusions that weren't there
- not to suppress ideas that could be valid
- work as a team
They gave us a single document between all of us, a whiteboard, some tables and chairs. We had to figure out what was going on, on the basis of the document, and the reading we'd done the night before. The subject matter isn't important. In my opinion, there weren't any conclusions to be drawn, but the examiners wanted to see what would happen, as they wound the pressure up.
It was a competition between our group, and the three or so others. We had about an hour. Periodically the examiners would enter the room briefly and increase the sense of urgency.
The military personnel immediately took charge. They owned the document. The civilian staff were not allowed access to the document, so all we had to work from was what they wrote on the whiteboard.
Not being particularly forward, I sat and listened patiently. It became rapidly apparent that the military personnel present were beginning not only to invent things, but invent things that weren't self consistent. From plausible to bizarre.
I was unhappy, that we only had this single copy of the source document. I suggested I take the bits that no-one else was using, and go and get them photocopied. That way we would all have something to work from. They didn't like it, but I took it anyway. Outside the traing room I bumped into one of the examiners, who explained that I couldn't use the photocopier, as it was against the rules of the test. Confirmation then. Confirmation that the test had intentionally given us too little information.
At some point I suggested that that the "presentation" we were being given by the military sub group was not only irrational, but incomprehensible. I explained to our leader that not only was he monopolising the source data, but in addition that the conclusions he was drawing were wrong.
The military guy took offence, and he told me (quit angrily) that he was the military man. (I can't remember his rank, I think he was a Staff Sergeant, whereas my civvy equivalent rank was Major. Because he was the military man he was in charge. I had to take orders! Poor thing!
I explained to him that as a civilian I didn't have to take orders from anyone. I left.
When I got back half an hour later they'd all finished, and no-one said a thing.
My conclusion? Addressing the purpose of the course;
- to think innovatively - Yes
- not to draw conclusions that weren't there - No
- not to suppress ideas that could be valid - No
- work as a team - Sadly not
There will be pockets where the system works. But it's more or less why I left.
Edited by dilbert on Wednesday 28th July 17:03
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