Airbus Trijet

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JuniorD

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8,637 posts

224 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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Old news perhaps but does anyone think it will catch on?



http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/04/18/22...

The real Apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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Can't see what advantage the extra weight and complexity would offer

Tango13

8,482 posts

177 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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The tail reminds me of the Heinkel He 162.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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JuniorD said:
Old news perhaps but does anyone think it will catch on?



http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/04/18/22...
with todays engines they don't need or even 3

Edited by Mojocvh on Wednesday 28th July 20:24

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

240 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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The most comfortable aircraft I have travelled on are the BAC 1-11 and DC9. These have all of their engines at the rear and are much, much more quiet in the cabin than anything today with wing mounted engines. I used to fly a BAC 1-11 and DC9 regularly and in the 1st row it was as if the aircraft didn't have any engines it was so quiet, even on take off, hardly a wisper. Even further back, much less noise than current 319/320/321, 737/757/767 etc.

I would have thought also that with wings completely free of engines that they were much more efficient.

Simpo Two

85,735 posts

266 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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It's an adult one of these!


AnotherClarkey

3,602 posts

190 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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Silver993tt said:
The most comfortable aircraft I have travelled on are the BAC 1-11 and DC9. These have all of their engines at the rear and are much, much more quiet in the cabin than anything today with wing mounted engines. I used to fly a BAC 1-11 and DC9 regularly and in the 1st row it was as if the aircraft didn't have any engines it was so quiet, even on take off, hardly a wisper. Even further back, much less noise than current 319/320/321, 737/757/767 etc.

I would have thought also that with wings completely free of engines that they were much more efficient.
I used to travel on the rear engined Fokker jets ("100"'s I think), they had extremely quiet cabins and were a real joy on early morning starts.

Chuck328

1,581 posts

168 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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Hmmm not sure about this.

For all intents and purposes this is about noise? Against increased maintenance and more weight - I don't believe shaving weight from the landing gear etc can equal the design either.

As the article did say, this is about punting an idea and protecting it, nothing wrong with that I guess however I'm sure airbus won't be forgetting how the 777 destroyed the A340 too soon. Also killed the MD11 I think.

Bit like the easyJet "ecojet" nice idea but noise and green credentials come way down the bean counters list of priorities.

grumbledoak

31,566 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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Wasn't the high-up rear engine on the MD11 a reason for them rolling over? I'm sure we just had a thread on a recent crash...

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Thursday 29th July 2010
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grumbledoak said:
Wasn't the high-up rear engine on the MD11 a reason for them rolling over? I'm sure we just had a thread on a recent crash...
That was the affected wing breaking off and the subsequent violent rolling motion from the one still attached.

andy97

4,704 posts

223 months

Thursday 29th July 2010
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Maybe a third engine will help Airbus overcome the contraints of the extended range twin engine rules?


Eric Mc

122,144 posts

266 months

Thursday 29th July 2010
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grumbledoak said:
Wasn't the high-up rear engine on the MD11 a reason for them rolling over? I'm sure we just had a thread on a recent crash...
Don't recall the similarly configured DC-10 having a "bounce and roll" problem. I think poor tailplane and elevator authority seems to be the main culprit in these MD-11 accidents.

The Airbus proposal reminds me a bit of this - on a much larger scale -




Oops - hadn't spotted the earlier He-162 picture. Great minds etc.


Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 29th July 11:56