Need 4 Speed- Hot Pursuit xBox / or / GT5 Playstation

[Corsair7]

My daughter asked me what I want for Christmas, and I'm unsure which one will be more entertaining....

Anyone know which I'll enjoy more?

[Meoricin]

Which do you prefer between GT4 and Burnout? That should decide it for you, though if you play online a lot GT5 might have more in hand with lots of us getting it and playing it.

[Shinobi]

If you have lots of time and want a huge game which is more serious then go for GT5, but if you wnat something easy to pick up and play and race stupidly fast, good looking cars then go for Hot Persuit.

Personally I would go for option 3 and get Forza 3 ultimate edition on the X-Box but thats just my personal preferance. (Ducks from the GT fanboys)

[356Speedster]

Depends what the preference is for style of game. GT, Forza & NFS are all different games, which all drive & play differently. In a nutshell.....

GT = sim
NFS = Arcade
Forza = Somewhere between the 2

Horses for courses, but not direct competitors to each other, therefore, each score in different departments to each other.

[Shinobi]

356Speedster said:

Depends what the preference is for style of game. GT, Forza & NFS are all different games, which all drive & play differently. In a nutshell.....

GT = sim
NFS = Arcade
Forza = Somewhere between the 2

Horses for courses, but not direct competitors to each other, therefore, each score in different departments to each other.

Ignore the sim comment, GT is not a sim. Either if any NFS game or Forza. I have never played a racing game on the console where I have believed I could do the same in a car.

[356Speedster]

Shinobi said:

Ignore the sim comment, GT is not a sim. Either if any NFS game or Forza. I have never played a racing game on the console where I have believed I could do the same in a car.

Disagree completly! Set in Pro mode, with aids off, with a good quality 900degree wheel, GT5 IS a sim which is the closet in feel you'll get to a pure-PC game like LFS or iRacing. The physics is very realistic and shows how you can make (for example) and Elise under or over steer based on setup, which completly demands you adjust your driving style to suit. GT5 can't be driven brain-out like NFS or Forza, unless you switch on all the aids.

[Shinobi]

356Speedster said:

Shinobi said:

Ignore the sim comment, GT is not a sim. Either if any NFS game or Forza. I have never played a racing game on the console where I have believed I could do the same in a car.

Disagree completly

Thats nice for you.

Owning a few cars in real life and having played as the same ones on GT5 they do not handle like them in the slightest or even sound like them. A good game but dissapointing for this long in production.

We don't need another thread of some people saying they are dissapointed and a few dedicated fanboys defending it until death.

Edited by Shinobi on Friday 26th November 16:01

[Mr Whippy]

Shinobi said:

356Speedster said:

Shinobi said:

Ignore the sim comment, GT is not a sim. Either if any NFS game or Forza. I have never played a racing game on the console where I have believed I could do the same in a car.

Disagree completly

Thats nice for you.

Owning a few cars in real life and having played as the same ones on GT5 they do not handle like them in the slightest or even sound like them. A good game but dissapointing for this long in production.

We don't need another thread of some people saying they are dissapointed and a few dedicated fanboys defending it until death.

Edited by Shinobi on Friday 26th November 16:01

Are you using a decent FF wheel, and which cars did you try?



Personally I keep seeing NFS HP and really just want to buy it

It looks so good, and sounds are nice, and I can imagine it's just fun to play now and again for 30mins etc...


GT5 is a game you really want a decent FF wheel and lots of hours to really appreciate. I could do without it to be honest, I have better things to be doing really haha! Ah well, tis winter

Dave

[356Speedster]

Shinobi said:

Thats nice for you.

Owning a few cars in real life and having played as the same ones on GT5 they do not handle like them in the slightest or even sound like them. A good game but dissapointing for this long in production.

We don't need another thread of some people saying they are dissapointed and a few dedicated fanboys defending it until death.

FBLOL!!! No point argueing over it, clearly there's a difference of opinion, but like you I've done the whole same car real life (road & track) & vitrual life and have been impressed with how GT5 can do the sim thing in the right circumstances, with the right hardware. Out fo the box no... you need to get change settings to find it and you do need a good wheel.. also, with a 3D TV, you get an experience no other game on any platform can offer at the moment.

If you disagree that's fine, but my original point is it's the closest to sim you'll get on a console, with pure-sims being LFS / iRacing on the PC.

[Mr Whippy]

356Speedster said:

with pure-sims being LFS / iRacing on the PC.

But where both of those are 'made up' cars, so it's easy to be inaccurate. You can just say "it's meant to do that" and all is ok.

You can't do that as easily when you copy real cars

Which makes GT5 all the more impressive really... it's just know which are the 'normal' tyres for any give car... the ones you buy it with!?

Dave

[356Speedster]

Mr Whippy said:

But where both of those are 'made up' cars, so it's easy to be inaccurate. You can just say "it's meant to do that" and all is ok.

You can't do that as easily when you copy real cars

Which makes GT5 all the more impressive really... it's just know which are the 'normal' tyres for any give car... the ones you buy it with!?

Dave

Fair point Dave, I know in LFS, there's only a couple of real cars, whereas GT / Forza, Shift use real ones.

I found with the Elise in GT I used it on "Comfort-Hard" tyres and impressed at how it mimic'd the real car's chuck-ability, liveliness and under / oversteer traits.

That last one surprises people, as the think any RWD can only oversteer, so when I comment on realistic understeer in the game, they look confused! Any car can understeer when not driven correctly (some RWD cars have it engineers in to provide a less edgy driving experience) and to see that in a game always shows an attention to detail often overlooked.

[Mr Whippy]

356Speedster said:

Mr Whippy said:

But where both of those are 'made up' cars, so it's easy to be inaccurate. You can just say "it's meant to do that" and all is ok.

You can't do that as easily when you copy real cars

Which makes GT5 all the more impressive really... it's just know which are the 'normal' tyres for any give car... the ones you buy it with!?

Dave

Fair point Dave, I know in LFS, there's only a couple of real cars, whereas GT / Forza, Shift use real ones.

I found with the Elise in GT I used it on "Comfort-Hard" tyres and impressed at how it mimic'd the real car's chuck-ability, liveliness and under / oversteer traits.

That last one surprises people, as the think any RWD can only oversteer, so when I comment on realistic understeer in the game, they look confused! Any car can understeer when not driven correctly (some RWD cars have it engineers in to provide a less edgy driving experience) and to see that in a game always shows an attention to detail often overlooked.

Yep.

GT4 was best with the comfort tyres, or N2/3 really. N3 probably felt like a Rosso Corsa kinda thing to me, and N2 an Eagle F1 or Michelin PS3 kinda thing.

They are the tyres in GT5 too, that most people should use to enjoy cars with imo... comfort medium or soft represent the tyres they would have on that car on the road... just a shame the 'game' never really makes you use these tyres very often... instead making you use the stickier tyres and losing the finer qualities of the cars handling envelope

Dave