Building a workshop/shed without PP

Building a workshop/shed without PP

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offshorematt2

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864 posts

217 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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Was hoping to get some input on a planning related question (in Scotland) if anyone can help?

I have an irregular shaped corner of garden that was annexed when the garage was built. It's just a waste at present, and I would like to fill it with a small workshop. It's totally seperate from the house, completely out of sight of the only other house nearby, and will butt up against the garage (although not actually be linked by a door or anything).

Now it struck me that getting a wooden shed knocked up would be the easy solution to maximise the space, but reading the notes below that I found online, it looks as if planning permission is required if the volume is more than 10cu.m. That equates to 6.5ft high by 7.3ft x 7.3ft which doesn't sound unreasonable (albeit it doesn't completley fill the space either).

I have the option of going the planning permission route and in this case, would just get a stone built workshop using all the available space pretty much up to the boundry. But I'm intrigued about the simpler aspect of just ordering a solid wooden shed to the dimensions above and dropping it in the space.

Does anyone know if the volume relates to the internal volume or the external volume? Are there any other considerations I should know about? I seem to recall something about being a certain distance from the boundry but there's no mention in the list below. Oh, and what is the planner's definition of a 'shed' - wooden built obviously, but can I put electricity and water into it, or does that then consitute something else entirely.

Thanks for any suggestions!


Buildings separated from the house.
You will not need to apply for the erection of sheds, summer houses, green houses, swimming pools, ponds, sauna cabins, tennis courts etc unless.......
You want to put up a building which is nearer to the highway than any part of the house.
More than half the area of your land is then covered by additions or buildings.
The addition or structure is to be used for anything other than domestic use.
The building is more than 3 metres high. (4 metres with a ridged roof).
The volume exceeds 10 cubic metres and is a listed building or is in any of the restricted areas. (see above)


Gingerbread Man

9,171 posts

214 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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If no one can see it.....

offshorematt2

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864 posts

217 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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Gingerbread Man said:
If no one can see it.....
Ha ha should have explained better. Can't see it from the house, but they will when they walk the dogs past my house into the woods...

No hiding it away wink

ColinM50

2,631 posts

176 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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Not sure if Scotland's PP laws are different to England, but as long as you can hand on heart state that it's a temporary wooden structure and is only used to store things, i.e. it's a shed and not a bedroom or bathroom, then you don't need PP. And the size of your shed is open to liberal interpretation too. As long as it is a shed (workshop/office) counts OK too, the you'll be fine. ONce you get to habitable rooms with people sleeping in them then the rules get (rightly so) stricter.

I've got three sheds at the mo, there's the Jag shed that's 7mx4m; then the mower shed that's 3mx3m and the boat shed that's 5mx3.5m and in the spring I'll be building the kitcar shed another 5mx4m. All wooden structure, well actually there's half a metre of brick walling to keep the bugs and damp out and the rest is wood. My local planning chappie's been to have a look and just said, "hmm, if you don't officially ask I don't offically have to answer, but unless someone complains for cause, it's OK". By "complains for cause" he means if I start building double story sheds or spoil somoeone's view etc.

Your risk but you could always just take a drawing of your plot and a piccie of what you're planning and ask an opinion.

Gaspode

4,167 posts

197 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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Do you have any reason to suppose that planning permission would be turned down? If not, then I would apply for permission to build something decent there. Once you have the permission, it's good for 5 years, and you don't have to use it - you can always put up a wooden shed as a temporary structure whilst saving up for a permanent solution.