Why are the Germans so anti-nuclear?
Discussion
'sLord 
said:
said: I dont know, but i found myself in the middle of a large anti nuclear protest in Munich on Saturday. They took over the whole of Odeonsplatz for several hours.
Hold on. You were in Munich on Saturday and you weren't at the Starkbierfest? Seriously?
Had the time of my life at Paulaner.
MadMullah said:
I believe Merkel has lost the election and alot of people are saying it is due to the nuclear issue and her handling of it.
but why are they so anti-nuclear? or are they just a bunch of hippies?
It was a bi-election in a region with ageing nuclear plants that were due to have their life extended very shortly, wasn't it?but why are they so anti-nuclear? or are they just a bunch of hippies?
Hardly surprising that the nuclear issue was a prime consideration given the mass hysteria about Japan's situation.
NAS said:
Lord said:
said: I dont know, but i found myself in the middle of a large anti nuclear protest in Munich on Saturday. They took over the whole of Odeonsplatz for several hours.
Hold on. You were in Munich on Saturday and you weren't at the Starkbierfest? Seriously?
Had the time of my life at Paulaner.
Lord said:
said:NAS said:
Lord said:
said: I dont know, but i found myself in the middle of a large anti nuclear protest in Munich on Saturday. They took over the whole of Odeonsplatz for several hours.
Hold on. You were in Munich on Saturday and you weren't at the Starkbierfest? Seriously?
Had the time of my life at Paulaner.
Spend Friday at Cohibar. The way they mix their drinks killed me more than the Salvator on Saturday. Had 5 Maes over 8 hours. Felt OK on Sunday. (was asleep by 9 on Saturday evening though....)
youngsyr said:
It was a bi-election in a region with ageing nuclear plants that were due to have their life extended very shortly, wasn't it?
Hardly surprising that the nuclear issue was a prime consideration given the mass hysteria about Japan's situation.
Yeah but Japan - edge of the Pacific Rim - Germany - middle of europe.Hardly surprising that the nuclear issue was a prime consideration given the mass hysteria about Japan's situation.
A bill was passed despite opposition last year to extend the shelf life of the oldest reactors by 12 years which has since been halted.
didnt think the germans would be so anti-nuclear - enough to vote in the greens
MadMullah said:
youngsyr said:
It was a bi-election in a region with ageing nuclear plants that were due to have their life extended very shortly, wasn't it?
Hardly surprising that the nuclear issue was a prime consideration given the mass hysteria about Japan's situation.
Yeah but Japan - edge of the Pacific Rim - Germany - middle of europe.Hardly surprising that the nuclear issue was a prime consideration given the mass hysteria about Japan's situation.
A bill was passed despite opposition last year to extend the shelf life of the oldest reactors by 12 years which has since been halted.
didnt think the germans would be so anti-nuclear - enough to vote in the greens
AshVX220 said:
MadMullah said:
youngsyr said:
It was a bi-election in a region with ageing nuclear plants that were due to have their life extended very shortly, wasn't it?
Hardly surprising that the nuclear issue was a prime consideration given the mass hysteria about Japan's situation.
Yeah but Japan - edge of the Pacific Rim - Germany - middle of europe.Hardly surprising that the nuclear issue was a prime consideration given the mass hysteria about Japan's situation.
A bill was passed despite opposition last year to extend the shelf life of the oldest reactors by 12 years which has since been halted.
didnt think the germans would be so anti-nuclear - enough to vote in the greens
MadMullah said:
Yeah but Japan - edge of the Pacific Rim - Germany - middle of europe.
A bill was passed despite opposition last year to extend the shelf life of the oldest reactors by 12 years which has since been halted.
didnt think the germans would be so anti-nuclear - enough to vote in the greens
In the early days of nuclear power, the Germans generally saw through the promises of cheap energy and focused on the waste that would be left behind. They've suffered a few accidents of their and were extensively contaminated by the fallout from Chernobyl. Following reunification, the East German plants were shut down due to differences in safety standards, which probably boosted the anti-nuclear side. Being on the frontline of the Cold War probably concentrated a view minds too. But it seems the opposition to nuclear is mainly down to the lack of plans to deal with the resulting waste and the government subsidies.A bill was passed despite opposition last year to extend the shelf life of the oldest reactors by 12 years which has since been halted.
didnt think the germans would be so anti-nuclear - enough to vote in the greens
Merkel hasn't lost the election (but her chances of re-election in the nationals are narrower), there were only 2 states which voted. Rheinland Pfalz (the Rhineland Palatinate) always were a bunch of socialists, and Baden Würtemberg (SW Germany) traditionally CDU conservative (for 58 years), now turned green/red, although the largest party with 40% remains the CDU. The greenslime and the reds joined together to make a coalition.
The whole thing was a propaganda exercise by the greenslime (read Trotskyists and ex-stasi commies) who pandered to every leftleaning paper and TV station and made mad panic statements about "how we're all going to die because of fukushima" and protests (bloody at that) against the new Stuttgart train station. A shame that these inbred commie scum ever were even allowed to be voted in!!!
The most of industry here is in shock and looking for ways to escape from the coming local state red idiocies.
Considering that Baden Württemberg is the powerhouse of Germany, and pays all the subsidies for the rest of the socialist german states, it's looking rather gloomy here. I'm certainly not going to put up with a red spending spree to feed the lazy and itinerant east germans and others, and for unwanted government status projects...
The whole thing was a propaganda exercise by the greenslime (read Trotskyists and ex-stasi commies) who pandered to every leftleaning paper and TV station and made mad panic statements about "how we're all going to die because of fukushima" and protests (bloody at that) against the new Stuttgart train station. A shame that these inbred commie scum ever were even allowed to be voted in!!!
The most of industry here is in shock and looking for ways to escape from the coming local state red idiocies.
Considering that Baden Württemberg is the powerhouse of Germany, and pays all the subsidies for the rest of the socialist german states, it's looking rather gloomy here. I'm certainly not going to put up with a red spending spree to feed the lazy and itinerant east germans and other
s, and for unwanted government status projects...Fittster said:
JMGS4 said:
I'm certainly not going to put up with a red spending spree to feed the lazy and itinerant east germans and other s, and for unwanted government status projects...
And besides posting on a UK based motoring site, what are you going to do about it?s, and for unwanted government status projects...
Because we thought that we just could send the waste to Sellafield,
but it was sent back again to bugger us for the next 25.000 years
We tried to be "the perfect ones" in the past and somehow that failed.
Now, it seems, some common sense has broken through.
No technology designed, constructed, operated and maintained by humans can be fail-proof and fool-proof.
Don´t get me wrong, I like technology and admit it has it`s fascination and it`s dangers,
but I dislike the fact that "the minimized nuclear risk" would leave half the country uninhabitable.
Sometimes it´s hard -and expensive- to admit one´s faults but I think Germany is through with nuclear power.
What has been erected will cease to operate in a few years
and then it´s waste that we have yet to find a "final solution" for, maybe we will this time
but as no atomic country in the world has been succesful there I doubt it.
Just bury it and leave it as a legacy to the next 1.000 generations, deal with it, suckers.
Maybe in 20(0) years we will envy your fusion-reactors and your houses with no power meters,
maybe we will be grateful that the channel is between the mainland and "The Zone"
Maybe we put ourself in a dead end, maybe we will -as a country with few natural resources-
go back to the drawing board and develop technologies that are successful and can be exported,
technologies that can save existing energy or create energy from reneweable sources.
Vorsprung durch Technik, you know ?
I don´t, to be honest, but I am willing to take that risk more than I am willing
to take the risks of "safe" and "civilian" nuclear power.
but it was sent back again to bugger us for the next 25.000 years
We tried to be "the perfect ones" in the past and somehow that failed.
Now, it seems, some common sense has broken through.
No technology designed, constructed, operated and maintained by humans can be fail-proof and fool-proof.
Don´t get me wrong, I like technology and admit it has it`s fascination and it`s dangers,
but I dislike the fact that "the minimized nuclear risk" would leave half the country uninhabitable.
Sometimes it´s hard -and expensive- to admit one´s faults but I think Germany is through with nuclear power.
What has been erected will cease to operate in a few years
and then it´s waste that we have yet to find a "final solution" for, maybe we will this time
but as no atomic country in the world has been succesful there I doubt it.
Just bury it and leave it as a legacy to the next 1.000 generations, deal with it, suckers.
Maybe in 20(0) years we will envy your fusion-reactors and your houses with no power meters,
maybe we will be grateful that the channel is between the mainland and "The Zone"
Maybe we put ourself in a dead end, maybe we will -as a country with few natural resources-
go back to the drawing board and develop technologies that are successful and can be exported,
technologies that can save existing energy or create energy from reneweable sources.
Vorsprung durch Technik, you know ?
I don´t, to be honest, but I am willing to take that risk more than I am willing
to take the risks of "safe" and "civilian" nuclear power.
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