EU: Complete ban of petrol & diesel car by 2050

EU: Complete ban of petrol & diesel car by 2050

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rypt

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2,548 posts

191 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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article said:
In an effort to reduce oil dependence, transport head Siim Kallas unveiled a plan on Monday calling for the complete ban of gas- and diesel-powered cars in Europe by 2050. The plan also contains a provision that would require most trips of 186 miles or more to be done so by train, forcing drivers to abandon their cars.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-commission-proposes-ban-of-all-gas-and-diesel-powered-vehicles-by-2050.html



I did check, and I'm pretty sure that today is NOT April 1st...
so since that is the case, what is it with EU and their hate of cars frown

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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We'll see what Mr Renault/Mercedes/BMW/FIAT etc have to say.

fido

16,805 posts

256 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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rypt said:
what is it with EUSSR and their hate of cars frown
EFA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siim_Kallas

"He was previously a member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union."

all animals are equal-eth, except some will no doubt have private cars.


DAVEVO9

3,469 posts

268 months

TeamD

4,913 posts

233 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Eric Mc said:
We'll see what Mr Renault/Mercedes/BMW/FIAT etc have to say.
Well I know what I have to say about it...over my dead body...however, since I guess it'd have to live to 85 to see it then that's quite likely! hehe

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Same here.

Puggit

48,474 posts

249 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Wiki said:
2004–2010: EU Commissioner for Administrative Affairs, Audit and Anti-Fraud and Vice-president of the Commission
So 6 years spent in utter failure and then he gets promoted...

This sums up the EU... Unelectable and out of control.

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

171 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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I hear that Saudi has only 40 years left of commercially available oil, so it will certainly be at a price which means we weren’t be burning it.
Therefore - Does it matter?

BlueMR2

8,656 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th March 2011
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Complete ban of politicians by 2050 would probably do the world more good.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th March 2011
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Puggit said:
Wiki said:
2004–2010: EU Commissioner for Administrative Affairs, Audit and Anti-Fraud and Vice-president of the Commission
So 6 years spent in utter failure and then he gets promoted...

This sums up the EU... Unelectable and out of control.
The EU have an audit and anti-fraud department? rofl

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 30th March 2011
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I'm guessing most of the time is spent auditing...

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

252 months

Wednesday 30th March 2011
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It did strike me that if this ban was imposed across the EU, the only country that would actually follow it would be Britain.

Every single other country would find a way around it, or not enforce it.

But not Britain.

Britain slavishly follows every single law from the EU, no matter how irrelevent or detrimental to the wealth of the country or the wellbeing of it's citizens.

It's utterly crazy but I see no signs of change. Britain is doomed!

Brighton Derly

597 posts

160 months

Wednesday 30th March 2011
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Article said:
The plan also contains a provision that would require most trips of 186 miles or more to be done so by train, forcing drivers to abandon their cars.
I wonder how they plan to enforce that... all cars to be fitted with satnav by law, registered on a central database somewhere in Brussels (which by the year 2050 will be Europe's equivalent of Washington DC), each car journey recorded and kept for 12 months, any car owner found to have driven further than 186 miles in any 24-hour period (because the EU will inevitably define 'a trip' to include the return journey as well as the outward journey) receives a £100 computer-generated fine... irked

Puggit

48,474 posts

249 months

Wednesday 30th March 2011
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Brighton Derly said:
Article said:
The plan also contains a provision that would require most trips of 186 miles or more to be done so by train, forcing drivers to abandon their cars.
I wonder how they plan to enforce that... all cars to be fitted with satnav by law, registered on a central database somewhere in Brussels (which by the year 2050 will be Europe's equivalent of Washington DC), each car journey recorded and kept for 12 months, any car owner found to have driven further than 186 miles in any 24-hour period (because the EU will inevitably define 'a trip' to include the return journey as well as the outward journey) receives a £100 computer-generated fine... irked
Got it in one

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Wednesday 30th March 2011
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bucksmanuk said:
I hear that Saudi has only 40 years left of commercially available oil, so it will certainly be at a price which means we weren’t be burning it.
Therefore - Does it matter?
You miss the fact that your figure (if it's even correct) is based on currently commercially available oil.

What do you notice about this chart of global proven oil reserves over time?



There is an entire industry dedicated to finding more oil - and so far they haven't been too bad at it. Not to mention that the scarcer oil becomes, the more rewarding it is to those who find it, so the more money is pumped into exploration and the more previously uncommercial reserves become commercial.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Wednesday 30th March 2011
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I think civil war in the UK over our failed relationship with the EU is more
likely....

croyde

22,964 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th March 2011
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2050! I'll be 88 and I am hoping that cars are banned within the next 10 years so that I won't be raped by the insurers when trying to get cover for my kids.

Us lot with cars, motorbikes and licences to drive them will be exempt of course.