Navy SEALS vs SAS vs SBS vs.....
Discussion
Seeing more and more info on the U.S Navy SEALS in the recent news and it's made me think that they may well just be more usefull than Steven Segal's crap acting had made me believe. Got me thinking 'which is the best special forces or special ops squadron/unit?'.
SAS have historically been touted as the world's most elite unit, but more recently the SBS have come to the fore thanks to some popular books.
U.S. Navy SEALS must be a pretty tidy outfit, considering the size of the pool of people they can select from and their budget for tech/kit.
What about Spetznas? Those pesky Ruskies must have some pretty serious special ops teams too.
Putting all national pride aside, who do you keyborad warriors reckon would be the best real life special forces? Any other nominations?
SAS have historically been touted as the world's most elite unit, but more recently the SBS have come to the fore thanks to some popular books.
U.S. Navy SEALS must be a pretty tidy outfit, considering the size of the pool of people they can select from and their budget for tech/kit.
What about Spetznas? Those pesky Ruskies must have some pretty serious special ops teams too.
Putting all national pride aside, who do you keyborad warriors reckon would be the best real life special forces? Any other nominations?
My money is also on the SBS boys, you hardly ever hear of them compared to the SAS.
I did hear one story of the SBS blokes being dropped in the north sea at night and then swimming a long way to then climb a heavily defended (SAS) oil installation and kicking the crap out of the SAS boys! How true that is I don't know.
I did hear one story of the SBS blokes being dropped in the north sea at night and then swimming a long way to then climb a heavily defended (SAS) oil installation and kicking the crap out of the SAS boys! How true that is I don't know.
Puggit said:
o what are the SBS?
The SBS are Swimmer Canoeists, they are recruited from within the Royal Marines so most SBS are former Royal Marine Commandos. The training is incredibly hard and the failure rate is very high, even though the guys that go through training are already at an amazing level of fitness/motivation and skill level.However I think the lines between the SAS and SBS are more blurred than they were. Cross training, secondments, budget cuts etc.
I think the OP's question is like asking what is best, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Pagani, Koenigsegg etc.
They are all very specialised in their own specific role, very highly trained and do things that don't always appear in the media.
Aren't the Navy Seals sort of the equivalent (in training, equipment and capability) as the Royal Marines. ie very good, but not as specialised as the SAS/SBS.
The SAS have their own specialities and the SBS have theirs. The SBS don't seem to have ex-personel selling their stories, therefore you don't hear about them. I don't think that you can read too much into this as to which service is better/harder.
The SAS have their own specialities and the SBS have theirs. The SBS don't seem to have ex-personel selling their stories, therefore you don't hear about them. I don't think that you can read too much into this as to which service is better/harder.
james_tigerwoods said:
My money's on those that you never hear about - You know, those that fall in to the category of "plausible deniability".... The "hardest" will be those that fall in to that legal grey area as they won't have any ROEs or accountability.
Or maybe that's a bit too "tin foil hat"...
Rainbow Six?Or maybe that's a bit too "tin foil hat"...
Zaxxon said:
Puggit said:
o what are the SBS?
The SBS are Swimmer Canoeists, they are recruited from within the Royal Marines so most SBS are former Royal Marine Commandos. The training is incredibly hard and the failure rate is very high, even though the guys that go through training are already at an amazing level of fitness/motivation and skill level.However I think the lines between the SAS and SBS are more blurred than they were. Cross training, secondments, budget cuts etc.
I think the OP's question is like asking what is best, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Pagani, Koenigsegg etc.
They are all very specialised in their own specific role, very highly trained and do things that don't always appear in the media.
Given the history of the region I'd have a guess that the Russians probably have the toughest. Russia is so vast selection would be from a generous pool, obviously many will have been active during various brutal conflicts on their own doorstep. The way Russian police deal with various criminal groups give some evidence that even the police are not to be messed with, let alone their special forces.
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