Is it illegal to sell [i]triple[/i] vodkas in a bars/clubs?

Is it illegal to sell [i]triple[/i] vodkas in a bars/clubs?

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Mr Obertshaw

2,174 posts

230 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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Back when I was in liverpool at Uni we used to get Quadvod and redbull for £2.50. You got 2 glasses with 2 shots of vodka in each and then poured them together before leaving the bar. I can't see them serving in this way all night every week unless they legally had to do so...

OdramaSwimLaden

1,971 posts

169 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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I've been told in bars that they cannot serve triple shots.....i'm not sure if it was the law or their own internal policy.

bulldog5046

1,495 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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Nick3point2 said:
I was once told it was illegal to serve a turbo shandy, where half a pint of lager is in a pint glass and a bottle of smirnoff ice is added: the bar owner said he couldn't legally sell that drink, which was clearly bullst, but was likely his way of backing up his rule against a drink that generally went hand and hand with thuggish behaviour.
Actually, i've been told this aswell previously more than once.

so i was served a half pint, bottle of WKD and an empty pint glass.

Must be some truth to it? why else would they put themselves though the hassle?

Meldonte

263 posts

171 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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jr502 said:
We used to have quad-vod and orange as the standard drink when I was at uni, in fact it was drunk by most people in the dive we went to. Never had any problems there (other than vomit etc!)
Lemme guess, Corporation in Sheffield? Quadvod and Irn-Bru £2... certainly a dive!

R11ysf

1,936 posts

182 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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I think this is likely to be company policy, I have a photo of a Weatherspoons poster from Newcastle last year which was about 10 feet high and said
"3 trebles for £4.99"

You gotta keep them happy some how!!

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

248 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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Back in the mists of time I may have had the odd triple vodka or five, cant think anyone ever served me one in two glasses before but then a lot has changed (including my tolerance to alcohol) in the past few years.

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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bulldog5046 said:
Nick3point2 said:
I was once told it was illegal to serve a turbo shandy, where half a pint of lager is in a pint glass and a bottle of smirnoff ice is added: the bar owner said he couldn't legally sell that drink, which was clearly bullst, but was likely his way of backing up his rule against a drink that generally went hand and hand with thuggish behaviour.
Actually, i've been told this aswell previously more than once.

so i was served a half pint, bottle of WKD and an empty pint glass.

Must be some truth to it? why else would they put themselves though the hassle?
snap

we were served half a pint of Larger in a Pint glass and a bottle of Smirnoff Ice


jackh707

2,126 posts

156 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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Mr Obertshaw said:
Back when I was in liverpool at Uni we used to get Quadvod and redbull for £2.50. You got 2 glasses with 2 shots of vodka in each and then poured them together before leaving the bar. I can't see them serving in this way all night every week unless they legally had to do so...
Yeah in Liverpool uni at the mo... best thing is a quadvod with a blue/orange/whatever vz/wkd etc. as the mixer. Still serve the vodka in two separate glasses now, adds up to 5.6 units in less than a pint glass... combine 2 of those with a few pint downing races and you can be on the floor in an hour.

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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bulldog5046 said:
Nick3point2 said:
I was once told it was illegal to serve a turbo shandy, where half a pint of lager is in a pint glass and a bottle of smirnoff ice is added: the bar owner said he couldn't legally sell that drink, which was clearly bullst, but was likely his way of backing up his rule against a drink that generally went hand and hand with thuggish behaviour.
Actually, i've been told this aswell previously more than once.

so i was served a half pint, bottle of WKD and an empty pint glass.

Must be some truth to it? why else would they put themselves though the hassle?
I think its classed as a cocktail which at some point needed a different licence (or so i was told). I was also told that they didn't know how much beer was being added- the wkd isn't 1/2 a pint which meant that it wasn't a standard measure to be able to be sold.
Or failing that it was just far too efficient at getting people far too drunk.

jr502

487 posts

174 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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Meldonte said:
Lemme guess, Corporation in Sheffield? Quadvod and Irn-Bru £2... certainly a dive!
No, not that much of a dive. In the south wink

superdome

30 posts

161 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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I have bought whole bottles before to share between groups in a bar.
As far as I can remember it is legal to sell spirits in any multiple of 25ml under the weights and measures act.


Defcon5

6,183 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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Meoricin said:
Likewise, the cocktail bar would only do it for you if you had a name for it.
You could have some fun making up stupid names for stuff though

Ash333

183 posts

164 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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superdome said:
I have bought whole bottles before to share between groups in a bar.
As far as I can remember it is legal to sell spirits in any multiple of 25ml under the weights and measures act.

25ml or 35ml or multiples of these. That said, a good cocktail should be freepoured.

Robb F

4,568 posts

171 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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When I worked in a bar, I was told not to sell quadruples to someone, had to give him two shots in a seperate glass so he could pour them in himself.


why anyone would care about this I don't know.

Willie Dee

1,559 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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Red Devil said:
I think the reason you can't find anything is because it is a matter for the discretion of the licencee, not by any Act or Statutory Instrument.

Many pubs are owned by large corporates so the factor in play is likely to be their corporate social responsibilty guidelines. A tenant landlord is not going to bite the hand that feeds him/her.

Many SU bars have a policy of a complete ban on triple measures.
Indeed, people are getting confused by what is illegal and what is a simple policy, nothing really to get worked up about, people on the whole are pretty dumb I would of thought most people on here would be used to it by now.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Wednesday 27th July 2011
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Willie Dee said:
people on the whole are pretty dumb

I would of thought most people on here would be used to it by now.
claplaugh

Mr Sparkle

Original Poster:

1,921 posts

170 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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Red Devil said:
I think the reason you can't find anything is because it is a matter for the discretion of the licencee, not by any Act or Statutory Instrument.
That's what I thought, albeit a policy made up on the spot (the manageress was drunk at the time of saying), a few people at work don't recognize the difference between law and branch policy, but you never know what 18th century rules no-one has gotten round to repealing yet.

mel

10,168 posts

275 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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R11ysf said:
I think this is likely to be company policy, I have a photo of a Weatherspoons poster from Newcastle last year which was about 10 feet high and said
"3 trebles for £4.99"

You gotta keep them happy some how!!
"3 trebles" ? so surely that means 9 measures, a true bargin at £4.99 even by Pikiespoons standards.

jmb88

212 posts

154 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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IIRC from my time as a barman, it's to do with the size of measures you serve, and the total measure of spirit in the drink. So 3x 25ml, or 2x 35ml, is the most that can go into a glass. Think for Long Island Ice Tea 2 of the measures are halved, to get the 4 spirits in.

pacman06

254 posts

159 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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Used to know lots of place around Liverpool that did trebles for the price of doubles all in same glass with mixer, only time seen something like this is when a mate asked for black russians or something containing vodka and tia maria and it came in seperate glasses.

Oh and one time in manchester, a certain bar refused a mate who had asked for a pint of... golden.. he would only serve him a half a lager, and a half a bitter in half pint glasses.. and no pint glass to pour it onto!

(bit like when I was in some strange place where I asked for a bottle of white wine, dozy bint came back with one of them farting 125ml miniture wine bottles and looked at me stupid when I explained I wanted a full size bottle, took them ten whole minutes to muster one from the back of a fridge.. strange people bearing in mind I had asked for two glasses as well)



Edited by pacman06 on Thursday 28th July 11:55