DPF Troubles - break, sell or fix?

DPF Troubles - break, sell or fix?

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eltax91

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9,872 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Hi guys

I have a 55 plate Mazda '6, with the 143 bhp 2.0 Diesel engine in it, which I bought 4 months ago for £3550. Recently, I had a regularly occuring DPF light, which came on for 10 minutes of motorway driving then went away again. I asked a local garage to remove the DPF and to fill it with a specialist cleaner, which they said they have done on other vehicle.

They did this, and have also carried out a DPF regen using some generic Snap-on diagnostic equipment. The problem is, the car keeps popping up the flashing DPF light, and occasionaly the engine management light. The fault codes are reading as o2 and dpf temperature sensor faults. I am currently diriving around with a fault code reader plugged in so I can keep clearing the codes!! When cleared the car boots fine and drives well, when the DPF light is flashing it still boots, but with stunted performance.

The situation i'm in is I run my car for work, and receive a car allowance for doing so. My boss insists I have a reliable car, so I have this morning robbed all the spare cash I have and agreed a purchase on a PD130 Octavia.

So, I now need to regain as much money as I can on the Mazda, do I:-

  • Keep trying witht he garages to fix it, then sell privately (a new DPF is silly money, over £1k)
  • Sell it as-is, stating the issue and get the best I can for it
  • Tear it to pieces in my garage and sell engine/ box/ body and scrap the rest
  • WBAC it and wave goodbye with zero fuss?
Any half decent Mazda Tech out there want to take a punt on it?

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

188 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Sell as is.

Do not invest any more money in a worthless item.

I know this from personal experience with a Mazda 6.

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Not helpful to you, OP, but this is ridiculous and as good a reason as any to avoid a modern diesel. frown

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

188 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Dog Star said:
Not helpful to you, OP, but this is ridiculous and as good a reason as any to avoid a modern diesel. frown
I disagree.

It's just a fking good reason to avoid Mazda 6s. They have many inbuilt faults with the DPF being a minor one.

thewildblue

351 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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You can get the DPF removed and bypassed completely. Its about £600 notes and apparently you get more power and better mpg and no more problems.

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

208 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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thewildblue said:
You can get the DPF removed and bypassed completely. Its about £600 notes and apparently you get more power and better mpg and no more problems.
Go for this IMO.

Fox-

13,238 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Life Saab Itch said:
I disagree.

It's just a fking good reason to avoid Mazda 6s. They have many inbuilt faults with the DPF being a minor one.
VAG cars have DPF issues as well.

ucb

952 posts

212 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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I am pretty cetain the 1.9PDs didnt get the DPF in 130 spec. I think it was only when they were used as the budget diesels (BlueEfficiency or whatever) in 105hp trim that they were DPFd.

Hub

6,434 posts

198 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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ucb said:
I am pretty cetain the 1.9PDs didnt get the DPF in 130 spec. I think it was only when they were used as the budget diesels (BlueEfficiency or whatever) in 105hp trim that they were DPFd.
Yes, and the 2.0 170 BHP engine too.

eltax91

Original Poster:

9,872 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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RobCrezz said:
Go for this IMO.
Will this produce an extra £600 come resale? Also, the costs of a day trip to Sinspeed in London have to be accounted for

y2blade

56,104 posts

215 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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eltax91 said:
Hi guys

I have a 55 plate Mazda '6, with the 143 bhp 2.0 Diesel engine in it, which I bought 4 months ago for £3550. Recently, I had a regularly occuring DPF light, which came on for 10 minutes of motorway driving then went away again. I asked a local garage to remove the DPF and to fill it with a specialist cleaner, which they said they have done on other vehicle.

They did this, and have also carried out a DPF regen using some generic Snap-on diagnostic equipment. The problem is, the car keeps popping up the flashing DPF light, and occasionaly the engine management light. The fault codes are reading as o2 and dpf temperature sensor faults. I am currently diriving around with a fault code reader plugged in so I can keep clearing the codes!! When cleared the car boots fine and drives well, when the DPF light is flashing it still boots, but with stunted performance.

The situation i'm in is I run my car for work, and receive a car allowance for doing so. My boss insists I have a reliable car, so I have this morning robbed all the spare cash I have and agreed a purchase on a PD130 Octavia.

So, I now need to regain as much money as I can on the Mazda, do I:-

  • Keep trying witht he garages to fix it, then sell privately (a new DPF is silly money, over £1k)
  • Sell it as-is, stating the issue and get the best I can for it
  • Tear it to pieces in my garage and sell engine/ box/ body and scrap the rest
  • WBAC it and wave goodbye with zero fuss?
Any half decent Mazda Tech out there want to take a punt on it?
how much have to spent trying to fix the Mazda?
what MY is the Octavia?

HellDiver

5,708 posts

182 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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You do know that your local remapper will remove the DPF and map out the DPF functions on the ECU for £300-400? Best solution for anyone with DPF issues.

My local folks are doing the service for the 2.0D Mazda 6 and the 2.0TDCI Mondeos for £400. They remove the DPF, knock the guts out of it, refit, then map out all the DPF functions. They'll also add an extra 30hp if you want while they're at it. An extra £80 they'll give you your DPF intact, and fit a bypass pipe.

Mazdarese

21,013 posts

187 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Life Saab Itch said:
Sell as is.

Do not invest any more money in a worthless item.

I know this from personal experience with a Mazda 6.
I had a feeling you'd be contributing to this. hehe

iamed

261 posts

174 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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HellDiver said:
You do know that your local remapper will remove the DPF and map out the DPF functions on the ECU for £300-400? Best solution for anyone with DPF issues.

My local folks are doing the service for the 2.0D Mazda 6 and the 2.0TDCI Mondeos for £400. They remove the DPF, knock the guts out of it, refit, then map out all the DPF functions. They'll also add an extra 30hp if you want while they're at it. An extra £80 they'll give you your DPF intact, and fit a bypass pipe.
This is what I will do if my DPF starts giving trouble and I'm no longer worried about main dealer service history.

Aizle

12,429 posts

175 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Mazdarese said:
Life Saab Itch said:
Sell as is.

Do not invest any more money in a worthless item.

I know this from personal experience with a Mazda 6.
I had a feeling you'd be contributing to this. hehe
Me too.

eltax91

Original Poster:

9,872 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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HellDiver said:
You do know that your local remapper will remove the DPF and map out the DPF functions on the ECU for £300-400? Best solution for anyone with DPF issues.

My local folks are doing the service for the 2.0D Mazda 6 and the 2.0TDCI Mondeos for £400. They remove the DPF, knock the guts out of it, refit, then map out all the DPF functions. They'll also add an extra 30hp if you want while they're at it. An extra £80 they'll give you your DPF intact, and fit a bypass pipe.
I've been downb that route already. Nobody except the expensive SinSpeed can say they have done this. They all say they've done it on a mondeo, not on a Mazda 6. I went to the hassle of taking it to a remapper at Rockingham race circuit. He tried for 12 hours, and good not read the ECU due to the encryption in place.

So, it's a solution for all DPF's, except Mazda's.

eltax91

Original Poster:

9,872 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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y2blade said:
how much have to spent trying to fix the Mazda?
what MY is the Octavia?
My garage is quite friendly, so I'm only out of pocket £70 currently on fixing the Mazda! They are going to try a further regen and recalibration on Friday.

The Octavia is a 54 plate, PD130 WITHOUT a DPF. biggrin

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Most VAG owners who have problems with the DPF actually have problems with the pressure sensor which senses backpressure from the dpf and tell the dpf to regen its a £50 part , you wouldnt say ABS was rubbish is a wheel sensor went

Personally i would do a dpf delete though

GreigM

6,728 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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This is a real pity, as I have a 53-plate Mazda 6 (pre-DPF) and its a really great car, over 120k miles now and drives like its brand new

eltax91

Original Poster:

9,872 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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GreigM said:
This is a real pity, as I have a 53-plate Mazda 6 (pre-DPF) and its a really great car, over 120k miles now and drives like its brand new
Yeah it's a massive shame. If only I'd have researched into DPF's first! I just cannot have an unreliable car, my work depends on it. My previous Octavia was faultless, so I'm just hoping this new one will be too.