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Greg66
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47 months
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Maximum Bobs said: Yes the bus does try to overtake.
Because it accelerated. Watch the video.
] It doesn't accelerate to overtake. It makes no attempt to get past. It accelerates only so as to get into position to deliver the swipe.
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Maximum Bobs
3,762 posts
87 months
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AndyACB said: I get your point Bob, if my "bicyclist" as you keep calling him had just ignored whatever riled him and carried on then he wouldn't have been run over. Having said that if I had been behind the wheel of the bus I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have tried to turn him into road kill. Maybe just called him a **** and carried on with the journey. Thank you, I'm glad someone gets it.  I only use the word bicyclist because I think it's a nice sounding old fashioned word.
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Maximum Bobs
3,762 posts
87 months
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Greg66 said: It doesn't accelerate to overtake. It makes no attempt to get past. It accelerates only so as to get into position to deliver the swipe. I think he does try to overtake but then the bicyclist accelerates & pulls to his right deliberately trying to stop the bus passing, this is when the driver snaps. For what it's worth I think the bus driver deserves to lose his job. If he hadn't of snapped this time then he probably would have at some point, but maybe next time with worse consequences. On the other side of the coin I also hope the bicyclist learnt not to let everyday occurrences provoke him into making bad decisions.
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mybrainhurts
71,603 posts
124 months
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Was that car on the footpath to finish the job off...?
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mybrainhurts
71,603 posts
124 months
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Not at all surprised this happened if the cyclist was of the militant variety.
I'm constantly in awe at the restraint shown by bus drivers in my neck of the woods as such cyclists abuse and provoke them. One deliberately held up a bus between several bus stops, then feigned a right turn, stopped, and spat in the driver's face as he passed on the left.
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DuckDuck
263 posts
17 months
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Looking closely at the BBC footage you can clearly see the start of the altercation. The bus driver indicates and edges into the right lane on the roundabout, i don't think he is cutting up the cyclist,. theres plenty of room but the cyclists appears to speed up and close the gap making it difficult for the bus driver. It looks like the bus driver had been in the wrong lane to begin with. What the bus driver did was totally out of order. IMO the cyclist is a total knob.
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Dave Hedgehog
5,320 posts
73 months
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Maximum Bobs said: Greg66 said: It doesn't accelerate to overtake. It makes no attempt to get past. It accelerates only so as to get into position to deliver the swipe. I think he does try to overtake but then the bicyclist accelerates & pulls to his right deliberately trying to stop the bus passing, this is when the driver snaps. For what it's worth I think the bus driver deserves to lose his job. If he hadn't of snapped this time then he probably would have at some point, but maybe next time with worse consequences. On the other side of the coin I also hope the bicyclist learnt not to let everyday occurrences provoke him into making bad decisions. certainly looks that way pretty typical behaviour of a large section of the cycling community in London that I experience, its gets very hard sometimes to avoid there psychotic actions
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Soren2
251 posts
64 months
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Unless you cycle regularly in busy towns it's impossible to realise how pointlessly inconsiderate other road users are. The bus driver will earlier have cut the cyclist up, no doubt. When crap driving, whether deliberate or inconsiderate, has been within six inches of hospitalising you, you do get extremely angry. It's not an easy emotion to shrug off, especially as the brainless would be assassin is right there to remonstrate with.
This is what has happened here, and I have taken many drivers to task over exactly the same thing. Fortunately for me, an easy prosecution and/or a visit to a transport manager is a good method of diffusing that anger.
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DuckDuck
263 posts
17 months
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Looking at the BBC footage the bus driver indicates right. To me, the cyclist must have seen this and seems, IMO, to deliberately make it awkward for the bus to get into the correct lane despite there being time and space for the cyclist to do so.
Bus driver is still out of order for reacting. And the cyclist is still a k**b. imo
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heebeegeetee
19,527 posts
117 months
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I wouldn't normally say this, but the cyclist asked for trouble and he got it. He's in the wrong on the roundabout and he was wrong to escalate it further and he was wrong to delay the bus passengers. The bus driver would have been on a charge of attempted murder though if it had been up to me. Greg66 said: A professional driver shouldn't have a breaking point. Well, they receive no training whatsoever to not have a breaking point, and nobody is born without one, so they're going to have one just like every other human being.
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CoolHands
1,822 posts
64 months
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'just deserts' springs to mind
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Greg66
1,524 posts
47 months
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heebeegeetee said: the cyclist asked for trouble and he got it. He's in the wrong on the roundabout Is there any footage of what happened on the rdbt? The talk-to-camera clip says the driver cut the cyclist up and the cyclist banged his hand on the bus (or is the banging what you mean by the cyclist being in the wrong on the rdbt?).
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Digga
10,898 posts
152 months
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DuckDuck said: Looking at the BBC footage the bus driver indicates right. To me, the cyclist must have seen this and seems, IMO, to deliberately make it awkward for the bus to get into the correct lane despite there being time and space for the cyclist to do so.
Bus driver is still out of order for reacting. And the cyclist is still a k**b. imo The bus did get into the right lane and was alongside the bike - who by this time appeared to have 'given up' on the prior road rage incident - when the bus then swerved back left and knocked him over. I'd say the cyclist was out of order to effectively stop the bus with his bike and I'd also so he may at first have tried to box the bus in (on the video clip), but the bus could have passed him easily, but chose not to and instead swerved at him. I am surprised the cyclist was not at least warned about road rage.
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Johnnytheboy
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55 months
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okgo
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67 months
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there's some f  king s on this forum, almost just as bad as the Mail comments section.
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will_
4,039 posts
72 months
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CoolHands said: 'just deserts' springs to mind Not really, the sentence wasn't nearly long enough to be "just".
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will_
4,039 posts
72 months
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mybrainhurts said: Not at all surprised this happened if the cyclist was of the militant variety.
I'm constantly in awe at the restraint shown by bus drivers in my neck of the woods as such cyclists abuse and provoke them. One deliberately held up a bus between several bus stops, then feigned a right turn, stopped, and spat in the driver's face as he passed on the left. Whereas what they should be doing, of course, is running the f kers over, right?
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heebeegeetee
19,527 posts
117 months
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Greg66 said: Is there any footage of what happened on the rdbt? The talk-to-camera clip says the driver cut the cyclist up and the cyclist banged his hand on the bus (or is the banging what you mean by the cyclist being in the wrong on the rdbt?). http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17069235
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Greg66
1,524 posts
47 months
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heebeegeetee said: The bit at c 35 seconds? Can't really see what the issue is there. There's a fair bit of space between them.
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BMWBen
3,537 posts
70 months
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Greg66 said: heebeegeetee said: The bit at c 35 seconds? Can't really see what the issue is there. There's a fair bit of space between them. You mean the bit where the bus is in the wrong lane entering the roundabout, and barges into the lane occupied by the cyclist? Do you normally drive like that?
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