Euro tunnel bump.... Insurance/ Liability
Discussion
Hello, I'm brand new here, Looking for some advice/ opinions.
Last thursday, On my way back from France, having passed through UK border control I boarded the Euro tunnel car train. I was parked by a steward having come to a stop at this point. The car then stalled, in lurching forward it hit the car in front.
I understand I was driving the car, but I was told to park in first gear and where to park. Am I fully liable? I only question this as normally I wouldn't park in first gear and also this close to another car.
Thanks
FM
Last thursday, On my way back from France, having passed through UK border control I boarded the Euro tunnel car train. I was parked by a steward having come to a stop at this point. The car then stalled, in lurching forward it hit the car in front.
I understand I was driving the car, but I was told to park in first gear and where to park. Am I fully liable? I only question this as normally I wouldn't park in first gear and also this close to another car.
Thanks
FM
funkymonk said:
Becuase I stopped where I was told to.
Do they not have a responsibility to take the possibility that I could stall in to account?
Should they give you a whole train on your own in case you suddenly swerve across the tracks trying to hit other stuff?Do they not have a responsibility to take the possibility that I could stall in to account?
Of course it's your fault.
esuuv said:
Do you usually leave suitable stall space infront then? have you passed any sort of driving test?
yes you're 100% liable.
That's a very sincere reply thank you for a warm welcome. Yes I have passed my test. And yes I wouldn't normally park so close to another car static or in traffic. yes you're 100% liable.
Do you park closer than a stall lurch to other cars?
esuuv said:
Do you usually leave suitable stall space infront then? have you passed any sort of driving test?
yes you're 100% liable.
You clearly haven't travelled on the chunnel in your car. They instruct you to park inches from the car infront. It minimises damage if something happens to the train (emergency braking etc)yes you're 100% liable.
OP - unfortunately, it is your fault. Oh, and welcome. Ignore the plonkers, it's all part of the initiation
funkymonk said:
Becuase I stopped where I was told to.
Do they not have a responsibility to take the possibility that I could stall in to account?
Gee. In that case I hope the manufacture of your car installed an automated braking system just in case the car in front of you stops and you forget to hit the brake pedal to slow and then stop yourself.Do they not have a responsibility to take the possibility that I could stall in to account?
sinizter said:
esuuv said:
Do you usually leave suitable stall space infront then? have you passed any sort of driving test?
yes you're 100% liable.
Not on the Eurotunnel. They made me get so close to the car in front that I felt I was nearly parked in their boot.yes you're 100% liable.
OP still liable, obviously.
It's my fault the car stalled, I'm not so sure it's my fault I hit the other car.
As I was told where to park.
But no one else seems to agree.
hornetrider said:
esuuv said:
Do you usually leave suitable stall space infront then? have you passed any sort of driving test?
yes you're 100% liable.
You clearly haven't travelled on the chunnel in your car. They instruct you to park inches from the car infront. It minimises damage if something happens to the train (emergency braking etc)yes you're 100% liable.
OP - unfortunately, it is your fault. Oh, and welcome. Ignore the plonkers, it's all part of the initiation
1) So people don't walk between cars
2) To maximise amount of cars that will fit on the train
3) So if the train brakes hard the cars don't have far to travel (so minimising impacts)
funkymonk said:
This is my point exactly, they parked me so close to the car that as what happend I stalled with the clutch out the jolt hit the other car.
It's my fault the car stalled, I'm not so sure it's my fault I hit the other car.
As I was told where to park.
But no one else seems to agree.
It's your fault I'm afraid.It's my fault the car stalled, I'm not so sure it's my fault I hit the other car.
As I was told where to park.
But no one else seems to agree.
Are you sure about this guys?
He wouldnt normally have parked as close but was under instruction, same as if a police officer directs you.
Ok he could have stopped further back and taken the wrath but he was following directions.
If the parking steward waves you forward so you hit the car in front whose fault is it? At those distances you cant judge it for yourself
He wouldnt normally have parked as close but was under instruction, same as if a police officer directs you.
Ok he could have stopped further back and taken the wrath but he was following directions.
If the parking steward waves you forward so you hit the car in front whose fault is it? At those distances you cant judge it for yourself
covboy said:
Whenever I’ve stalled, my car has stopped !
It would only move forward if I was careless enough to
a) leave the handbrake off
b) leave it in gear
c) let the clutch out with the engine running.
I assume most of these criteria occurred?
It would only move forward if I was careless enough to
a) leave the handbrake off
b) leave it in gear
c) let the clutch out with the engine running.
I assume most of these criteria occurred?
I think the OP is tacitly saying that he let the clutch out while the car was in gear, and because of this mistake that he believes Euro tunnel/the steward/the car and/or tyre manufacturer bear some responsibility.
saaby93 said:
Are you sure about this guys?
He wouldnt normally have parked as close but was under instruction, same as if a police officer directs you.
Ok he could have stopped further back and taken the wrath but he was following directions.
If the parking steward waves you forward so you hit the car in front whose fault is it? At those distances you cant judge it for yourself
If someone waves you back (or forwards) into a space and you collide with another vehicle, it's your fault. Just like it's your fault if someone flashes you and you drive across their path because you mistook that flash for a prompt to go, etc.He wouldnt normally have parked as close but was under instruction, same as if a police officer directs you.
Ok he could have stopped further back and taken the wrath but he was following directions.
If the parking steward waves you forward so you hit the car in front whose fault is it? At those distances you cant judge it for yourself
The car wouldn't have lurched forward if the OP hadn't lifted off the clutch with the engine running. If it had stalled with the clutch in it wouldn't have gone anywhere.
Edited by Durzel on Monday 20th February 16:51
saaby93 said:
Are you sure about this guys?
He wouldnt normally have parked as close but was under instruction, same as if a police officer directs you.
Ok he could have stopped further back and taken the wrath but he was following directions.
If the parking steward waves you forward so you hit the car in front whose fault is it? At those distances you cant judge it for yourself
My point, if I parked at the start of the train so no one else could get on they'd order me to move and rightly so....He wouldnt normally have parked as close but was under instruction, same as if a police officer directs you.
Ok he could have stopped further back and taken the wrath but he was following directions.
If the parking steward waves you forward so you hit the car in front whose fault is it? At those distances you cant judge it for yourself
Isn't it also their responsibility that the distance they advise to park is safe?
OP - if you dont believe you aren't liable for crashing your car when you are driving, who do you believe is?
Why didnt you park as instructed and turn the car off in neutral and then engage 1st when the engine was off?
As annoying as it is all the comments above are correct - it doesnt matter how close you were even if insructed to park there you are 100% liable.
Why didnt you park as instructed and turn the car off in neutral and then engage 1st when the engine was off?
As annoying as it is all the comments above are correct - it doesnt matter how close you were even if insructed to park there you are 100% liable.
Space is at a premium in work and we sometimes have to park trucks so close that you couldn't get a screwdriver blade between the bumpers. I am yet to hit another truck and that's with air clutches, heavy standard clutches etc. I'm not a driving god, I'm just careful.
YOU stalled the car, it lurched forwards and YOU hit the car in front with yours. It's YOUR fault and you have to man up and takes responsibility for your actions.
Sorry about that.
Oh and drive more carefully in future.
YOU stalled the car, it lurched forwards and YOU hit the car in front with yours. It's YOUR fault and you have to man up and takes responsibility for your actions.
Sorry about that.
Oh and drive more carefully in future.
DaveH23 said:
OP - if you dont believe you aren't liable for crashing your car when you are driving, who do you believe is?
Why didnt you park as instructed and turn the car off in neutral and then engage 1st when the engine was off?
As annoying as it is all the comments above are correct - it doesnt matter how close you were even if insructed to park there you are 100% liable.
Because of the comotion. Why didnt you park as instructed and turn the car off in neutral and then engage 1st when the engine was off?
As annoying as it is all the comments above are correct - it doesnt matter how close you were even if insructed to park there you are 100% liable.
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