GF hit a cyclist, advice pls!

GF hit a cyclist, advice pls!

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DoubleSix

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11,714 posts

176 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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Fortunately fault isn't what this thread was intended to determine Jujuuk68.

Thanks for the opinions folks, gf feels she'll be more relaxed if she reports it so thats what she's going to do.

On reflection I guess I agree theres little to lose.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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Greg66 said:
IIRC the Police have a form you can fill out for self reporting incidents like this. You use it where you're not sure whether the other party will try it on; so you make a voluntary contemporaneous statement first and the Police hold it on file.

Sounds like that's what your gf should be doing.

That said, as at least one other person has said it will take 24 hours for the injury to come out, so the cyclist may truthfully be able to say that he felt fine at the time but much worse the next day.
I've reported an accident when some fking dhead just drove into me at the lights. Not hard and did no damage, but he wouldn't even acknowledge that he'd done it and was still leaning on my runabout rolleyes Just say there staring straight ahead. As I politely asked him WTF he was up to!

Reported it couple days later. PC at the desk just wrote down the details I gave him on some headed notepaper. Stamped it with the date, then wrote his number on it. Nothing came of it, but better safe than sorry smile

As above though I wouldn't be surprised if cyclist decides to have a claim up if his chavvy mates convince him "easy money" (and I say that as a cyclist) I wouldn't but as above I'm not everyone either smile

Toilet Duck

1,329 posts

185 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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Were there any traffic lights near this collision? Did the cyclist jump a red light?

Tom H

543 posts

187 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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Toilet Duck said:
Were there any traffic lights near this collision? Did the cyclist jump a red light?
Not too sure if relevant, if it were me report it and be done

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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Jujuuk68 said:
Almost certainly there will be a claim.
Lots of friends have had minor bumps on their bike and put it down to silly riding and experience, so I think "almost certainly" is going a bit far.

Some people do still have common sense you know!

Efbe

9,251 posts

166 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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DoubleSix said:
Fortunately fault isn't what this thread was intended to determine Jujuuk68.

Thanks for the opinions folks, gf feels she'll be more relaxed if she reports it so thats what she's going to do.

On reflection I guess I agree theres little to lose.
OP, without going into blame etc etc, make sure she does report it.

Also don't be so dismissive if he does claim in any way. Many injuries caused by tumbles and falls often do not surface until at least the next morning, and often longer.

I have slipped previously when out fell-running about a foot down scree, jarring my foot on a rock, been absolutely fine to carry on the run with no major pain. The next day in complete agony, and out of running for 6 months.

Some Gump

12,688 posts

186 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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DoubleSix said:
Maybe I haven't explained properly, but she was stationary. Nosing out of a car park onto this one way hill with cycle lane going the wrong way. Guy comes flying round the corner takes evasive action of the gf's stationary vehicle, clips the bumper and takes a wee tumble. I reckon a non-event.... but I seem to be in a minority.
If this is the case, she didn't hit the cyclist, the cyclist hit her. Tell teh police if it makes her sleep better. Oh, then send her to specsavers.

wildcat45

8,073 posts

189 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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Greg66 said:
IIRC the Police have a form you can fill out for self reporting incidents like this. You use it where you're not sure whether the other party will try it on; so you make a voluntary contemporaneous statement first and the Police hold it on file.

Sounds like that's what your gf should be doing.

That said, as at least one other person has said it will take 24 hours for the injury to come out, so the cyclist may truthfully be able to say that he felt fine at the time but much worse the next day.
This.

Fastdruid

8,639 posts

152 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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She must report it by law (a grazed knee is still an injury).

From http://www.met.police.uk/traffic/forms.htm

Section 170 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 requires drivers to report to a police officer or police station that they have been involved in an accident involving in any of the following;

  • any personal injury
  • damage only, where the other driver did not stop
  • damage only, where names and addresses were not exchanged with the other driver and any other owner of property damaged (even if the other driver stopped)
<snip>

This must be done as soon as is practicable and in any event within 24 hours of the accident in order to assist any possible investigation and to comply with the law.


billzeebub

3,864 posts

199 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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He probs won't take it further, unless of course he is a Ph member online this evening

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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The chap on the bike cycled into your lady's stationary car. Causing damage to the car?
He is ok so he said so that's the most important thing next you need to have a claim against him for the damage caused to your car.
Imagine if you had risen into a child.... If he cannot see a big stationary car he isn't concentrating on the road and should be fined accordingly.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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DoubleSix said:
...advice please...opinions would be gratefully received...
My advice OP: never share your personal life on a forum. Theyre filled with self-righteous, sanctimonious wallys who hang around waiting for the opportunity to belittle others, as you have seen.

Road Pest

3,123 posts

198 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Welshbeef said:
Imagine if you had risen into a child....
A completely different offence I believe...

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Road Pest said:
Welshbeef said:
Imagine if you had risen into a child....
A completely different offence I believe...
hehe

CraigMST

9,079 posts

165 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Welshbeef said:
The chap on the bike cycled into your lady's stationary car. Causing damage to the car?
He is ok so he said so that's the most important thing next you need to have a claim against him for the damage caused to your car.
Imagine if you had risen into a child.... If he cannot see a big stationary car he isn't concentrating on the road and should be fined accordingly.
Really?
So if a car pulls into the path of another person or car and is hit then the person who is already on the road is responsible? That can't be right.

Fastdruid

8,639 posts

152 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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BIANCO said:
Hopefully in this case everyone involved will just forgot about it and get on with it, the way it should be with minor personal injury accidents. In the past people would just get up may be shout and swear a bit but then just get on their way. The way it still works in most other courtiers.
Absolutely. Doesn't stop it being a legal requirement to report it. Shouldn't be more than a formality to do that but should the cyclist report it and the OP's GF not report it then she could be in trouble. Even though (from the sound of it) she's not in the wrong and even if the cyclist doesn't attempt to sue or claim in anyway.

mat777

10,390 posts

160 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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I am speaking as someone who when driving gets very angry at irresponsible and too-fast cyclists pulling suicidal moves, yet when on my bike regularly filters very fast down the side of traffic and has recently come unstuck doing so (car turned off in front of me, I locked up on the wet road and went under the side of it. No damage to the car but I needed new handlebars and a wheel trueing. I was happy to hold my hands up, walk with a sore arse for a few days, accept blame and pay for my own repairs). Im my case, it was confirmed by a policeman friend that I was in the wrong for not reading the road ahead and following the car too closely. Now it seems to me that your situation is very similar, ergo IMHO the cyclist is completely to blame and if he is a half decent human being he will stick to his stance of not taking any further action.

My advice, however, would be to report it to the police using one of the aforementioned self report forms, just in case he does change his mind when the ambwilans chasing parasites come crawling

Fastdruid

8,639 posts

152 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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BIANCO said:
Hopefully in this case everyone involved will just forgot about it and get on with it, the way it should be with minor personal injury accidents. In the past people would just get up may be shout and swear a bit but then just get on their way. The way it still works in most other courtiers.
Absolutely. Doesn't stop it being a legal requirement to report it. Shouldn't be more than a formality to do that but should the cyclist report it and the OP's GF not report it then she could be in trouble. Even though (from the sound of it) she's not in the wrong and even if the cyclist doesn't attempt to sue or claim in anyway.

mat777 said:
My advice, however, would be to report it to the police using one of the aforementioned self report forms, just in case he does change his mind when the ambwilans chasing parasites come crawling
I'd personally be more worried about the police than the ambwilans chasing parasites tbh. That (while a pain) is what we all pay our inflated rip off insurance premiums for after all.

johnpeat

5,326 posts

265 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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I'd advise against going to the Police because she's got nothing really to report. At best she's wasting their time, at worst it could look like she's "trying to get the first word in" which is often a sign of guilt and could lead to more problems that it's worth.

You should, perhaps, inform your insurers tho. Make it clear you're not making a claim and that the car is undamaged but in the event the cyclist does decide to take action (even if it's weeks, months or years from now) your insurer will have a record of the incident and it looks better for you.

Questions you also need to consider ASAP are
Are there any independent witnesses to this event (passers-by)?
Is the area covered by CCTV?

If there's any way to get an objective view of things it's worth having - because over time the story can change and before you know it she was weaving around at 90mph trying to punch him off his bike smile

Also - get her to write an account of what happened now (whilst it's fresh in her mind) - all the details she can remember but specifically the time/place/conditions and what was said at the scene - and then add details of any and all text messages or calls thereafter to create a proper log of events (if you contact your insurer they may ask all of this anyway).

GL!

Edited by johnpeat on Friday 9th March 02:34

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Welshbeef said:
Imagine if you had risen into a child....
Err. I'll pass on that one.