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Burrito

1,208 posts

89 months

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bulldog5046 said:
Burrito said:
Did you get any confirmation of the cancellation?
No, I wasn't provided any proof of cancellation which appears to just be another kick in the teeth frown
Did you do the canx on your phone or pc/laptop? If pc you might be able to view your history. (change settings to work offline then have a browse of your history, get some screen shots then send off with a complaint the tc.)

Burrito

1,208 posts

89 months

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bulldog5046 said:
This was my first idea. As I'm struggling to even get hold of them I have no idea who to address a summons to.

If I just take the registered address and no one responds do the court just find in my favour?
THOMAS COOK UK LIMITED Company Number 02631252
THE THOMAS COOK BUSINESS PARK
CONINGSBY ROAD
PETERBOROUGH
PE3 8SB

bulldog5046

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963 posts

47 months

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Steffan said:
Did you pay by credit card?

This can be very beneficial in such circumstances.

I never use credit cards for credit. Too expensive

But as security on the internet? Very effective.
I thought the same but they want nothing to do with it as I can't prove it was their mistake not mine.

bulldog5046

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963 posts

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Burrito said:
Did you do the canx on your phone or pc/laptop? If pc you might be able to view your history. (change settings to work offline then have a browse of your history, get some screen shots then send off with a complaint the tc.)
Phone, sadly.

Burrito

1,208 posts

89 months

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No idea how much data is saved but worth a look.
http://browsers.about.com/od/allaboutwebbrowsers/s...
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streaky

18,232 posts

118 months

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Send a Subject Access Request under s7 Data Protection Act 1998, including the supply of a transcript or copy of any telephone recording made on <dates and times>. Don't mention the disputed booking.

Streaky

redstu

2,055 posts

108 months

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Having just taken a look at the site on my iPod, I wouldn't book on anything where I couldn't see the full screen.
I always like to check carefully before pressing the pay button.
A genuine mistake it seems unless you can show that their system throws up some errors.
Maybe you could record a booking session that shows the errors after all someone else posted about spurious dates showing up.

daz3210

5,000 posts

109 months

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bulldog5046 said:
This was my first idea. As I'm struggling to even get hold of them I have no idea who to address a summons to.

If I just take the registered address and no one responds do the court just find in my favour?
Yes, that exactly.

In fact, even better, it won't even get to court, you just apply for judgement by default.


bulldog5046

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963 posts

47 months

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I presume I should login again and make sure it's cancelled?

I have been trying to find a buyer for the tickets but it's not looking good.

Decky_Q

788 posts

46 months

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Recording a few sample bookings where the dates have changed themselves would be a great bonus, if you can replicate the circumstances of the error it would make damning evidence. Def get a case lodged Id imagine that it wont even get that far, once you make contact you should get your cash back Id imagine, they are fighting closure so probably could do without a website error pissing few hundred customers off, the press could be enough to kill the company.

h0b0

1,456 posts

65 months

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I used to fly a lot and would always use the airport code when booking my flights instead of searching. So to go from Newark NJ to Manchester UK it would be EWR to MAN. My theory was that it would reduce the chance of errors. Once, when booking the EWR to MAN flights the web site I was using poped up saying there was a cheaper flight with the same times and destination. It was only when I was in Manchester on New Years Eve that I realised they had selected Manchester New Hampshire not UK as startin point. This was compunded by the fact that the web site had confused my credit card company because it was a UK credit card but a US web site so they managed to charge me for the flights but at the same time cancel my card. So I was now stuck in the UK with no credit card or flights back to the US. Finally, I was very ill so in no mood to sort any of it out.

My mood was only slightly lifted when landing in Newark and the Manchester scally sat next to me said "I expected New York to look taller". I said "That's Newark. New York was on the other side of the plane" Idiot.

bulldog5046

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963 posts

47 months

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I didnt manage to get this sorted before i flew out so on my retrn i sent Thomas cook a detailed letter recorded delivery giving them 14 days to respond before i would submit a court summons.

fast forward to today, 15 days since i sent the letter and no reponse so i've sumbitted the summons online, paid my £35 and i'm awaiting the response.

19 days to wait until the summons will time out and default i my favour.

who things i'll get a response? who thinks it will goto court? and who thinks i'll get a cheque by the end of the week? smile

oldsoak

5,585 posts

71 months

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bulldog5046 said:
i was booking it on the iphone as Virgin media cable is amazingly fast but never works.

I genuinely believe i selected the correct dates as when i returned to re-book the flight it still had my old search there with the correct dates!

CC company want nothing to do with it as there is no way to prove i didnt make a mistake. so, ironically its pointless paying the extra £16 to pay on a CC as it offers fk all protection!

i'm so fking angry. i've got no money left for the holiday as this has wiped me out and i still need a hire car to get from the airport to where we are staying some 100miles away.
Win on the lottery ?

JustinP1

10,274 posts

99 months

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bulldog5046 said:
I didnt manage to get this sorted before i flew out so on my retrn i sent Thomas cook a detailed letter recorded delivery giving them 14 days to respond before i would submit a court summons.

fast forward to today, 15 days since i sent the letter and no reponse so i've sumbitted the summons online, paid my £35 and i'm awaiting the response.

19 days to wait until the summons will time out and default i my favour.

who things i'll get a response? who thinks it will goto court? and who thinks i'll get a cheque by the end of the week? smile
I think you'll get an acknowledgement of service which gives them another 14 days, 28 days total.

After that?

It depends on how watertight your claim is.

From experience, it is a nightmare to use the formatting on MCOL. Then, should a Defence be filed, it automatically gets sent to the Defendant's home court.

supersport

1,563 posts

96 months

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Airlines are a bunch of robbing bds, once you have booked there are no changes, no moving of dates/times, different passenger, they just take your money anway and seems they and the leisure industry are exempt from the SOGA.

Colleague booked a flight, then his boss said can you extend your stay and visit these people, so he booked another flight. Before he could chance his arm at changes, the airline cancelled the original flight and pocketed the £600, they said he couldn't possibly be on both so they cancelled one.

Absolutely scandalous that they can get away with it, leaving the customer with no rights. And still doesn't stop them over booking flights

And howcome they get no fuel duty?

Hope you get sorted OP.

bulldog5046

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963 posts

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oldsoak said:
Win on the lottery ?
sadly not.

The hire car was a whole other story. but overdraft is maxxed out as well as my credit card. i wish i'd just stayed at home.

h0b0

1,456 posts

65 months

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JustinP1 said:
it automatically gets sent to the Defendant's home court.
Not when the action is against a company. There is a way of requesting the court location but I can't remember how

JustinP1

10,274 posts

99 months

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h0b0 said:
JustinP1 said:
it automatically gets sent to the Defendant's home court.
Not when the action is against a company. There is a way of requesting the court location but I can't remember how
Trust me - although I know what the CPRs say, this is what happens.

When you use money claim online, this is what happens automatically. You then have to argue why the court location should be changed back to your home court to their home court.

This even happened to me recently when I filed a claim actually in my home court. Now, the papers get processed by a 'call centre' type operation in Salford, and if defended, even if the Defendant is a company or in my case a government organisation, it automatically got sent to the defendant's home court.

The issue is of course that the onus is on you to argue why the admin is necessary to change it.

oyster

5,212 posts

117 months

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supersport said:
Airlines are a bunch of robbing bds, once you have booked there are no changes, no moving of dates/times, different passenger, they just take your money anway and seems they and the leisure industry are exempt from the SOGA.

Colleague booked a flight, then his boss said can you extend your stay and visit these people, so he booked another flight. Before he could chance his arm at changes, the airline cancelled the original flight and pocketed the £600, they said he couldn't possibly be on both so they cancelled one.

Absolutely scandalous that they can get away with it, leaving the customer with no rights. And still doesn't stop them over booking flights

And howcome they get no fuel duty?

Hope you get sorted OP.
I don't even know where to start on such an innacurate post.

1. If an airlines cancels a flight, they would not pocket the £600. I suggest you check the facts about what happened to your colleague.

2. Customers have no rights? You are joking aren't you? Airlines have an huge amount of liability to protect customers in the events of delays, cancellations etc.

3. Overbooking. A large number of people cancel at the last minute, so overbooking enables the plance to fly with more passengers. Of couyrse we could outlaw this - but guess who will end up paying for the empty seats on the plane? Oh and in any case, if you do get 'bumped' because of overbooking, the compensation is usually very generous.

4. Fuel duty? Under what jurisdiction? Does a flight from Hong Kong to London pay duty at British rates of Chinese rates? What if it's a Chinese airline? How will you enforce that?

wiggy001

2,958 posts

140 months

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So, in summary, the OP screwed up the booking, didn't read the summary of the booking before hitting "confirm" and now wants their money back on a non-refundable flight that they incorrectly booked?

No wonder Thomas Cook is in financial difficulties if this is in any way the norm.

Will the OP also be claiming compensation for stress to go with this?
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