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paultownsend

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225 posts

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last night a hit and run driver did this to my golf. it also hit two other cars and, ripped the tarmac off the road and damaged two walls.







at around midnight my girlfriend and i heard a huge bang and my alarm went off. ran outside to find a mondeo 30 meters down the road crashed in to a wall. the door was open, keys in the ignition and the airbag had gone off. i heard a man on his phone in the adjacent field saying he'd crashed down the road from his house. but i couldnt see the b&stard. he ran off.

police were called, took no real statements, didnt bother looking in the field, gave crash number, waited for recovery of the mondeo and left. no pictures taken by then. another pc went to the registered house of the vehicle, which was insured.

when i woke up i was fuming at the police as they showed no real consideration, and i felt i already knew the outcome. i rang them up and vented, mainly selfishly at my loss.
the woman who the car was registered and insured to told the police the car was taken without consent, but she gave a possible three names. they had her keys ffs!

so at the moment a hit and run with a stolen car has taken away my 5 years work. the woman definitely knows who took the car but wont confess. where can it go from here?

im fully comp with greenlight, insured through highways. they said they had to recover the car as it was dangerous to the public. to be fair, it had been ripped open like a can of beans. so its with the recovery company with no charge until they can asses the damage. it wont be repairable.

where do i stand from here? i have a feeling that i have to claim. i cant get to work without a courtesy car. i cant borrow a car from anywhere else as my girlfriend needs hers. do i loose all my no claims discount?

the police have passed the incident to CID and assure me they are taking it seriously. they will take forensic evidence in the mondeo. the driver is faced with theft of a vehicle, criminal damager and leaving the scene of an accident. but they dont yet know who he is. but how hard can they press the owner of the car? she obviously knows something. is there any way of getting her with perverting the cause of justice?


Breadvan72

10,234 posts

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I am very sorry to hear that you have been the victim of such anti-social behaviour. All that I can suggest is that you calmly but firmly keep the pressure on the police to investigate the incident carefully. The driver may have been drunk or on drugs or is, at the least, a careless and inconsiderate driver, who has not faced up to his responsibilities after damaging your car and other cars. The woman who is the keeper of the car may, as you suggest, know exaclty who was driving.

In dealing with the police, emphasise the anti-social element of what occurred. The driver could have killed or injured someone. I am sorry that your car, which you have no doubt cherished and worked on over time, is so badly beaten up and may be a write off. I hope that you can find a good replacement car with your insurance payout. The frustration and hassle will not be recompensed, nor the cost to you in time, insurance premium increase and so on. Regrettably, you have been the victim of a lawless individual who has not signed up to be a member of society. I hope that the police get him.

paultownsend

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i can recover the no claims even if the owner of the mondeo claims the car has been stolen?

breadvan, thank you for the reply. it makes me so angry that this person will most likely never be caught.

the worst thing here is im looking from going from a 170hp golf to a 60hp skoda fabia!

elanfan

1,107 posts

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Unless I am very much mistaken the car was TWOC and therefore the car wasn't insured for the driver - sorry but I doubt the Mondeo insurers will pay.

surveyor

4,549 posts

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I have a vague memory that if the car has hit yours under the RTA the insurers would pay up.

I also seem to recall that this is the same if a stolen car hits a police car during pursuit for instance.

I do add a rather large disclaimer that I may indeed be talking complete bks.
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paultownsend

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and this is why I am so angry with the owner. it was taken without consent. but that person was in her house to get the keys? I hope the police can prove against this obvious lie.

does anyone have experience with this?

http://www.mib.org.uk/Home/en/default.htm

Paul

davemac250

4,204 posts

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Two things.

1 if the twoc stands you'll end up going through the uninsured loss bureau. You will still get paid out, it will take longer and your no claims are at risk (depending upon insurer.)

2 the police will investigate via forensics. What happened on the night is pretty standard. After a make off from an accident where no injuries the resources deployed will be as limited as possible. The days of searching for suspects went with all the cuts. Sad, but true and only likely to get worse.

Sir Bagalot

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Doesn't the MIB only cover you if you've only got TP cover?

paultownsend

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a big apology went out to the police when they rang back. the pc who was passing the case to CID was very helpful

D900SP

434 posts

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A similar thing happened to my mother; A "stolen" cap rammed the garden wall. Car was stuck and the driver ran away. Police did absolutely nothing, no fingerprints of the steering wheel, radio, mirror or keys, nothing was done except the reassuring "we will deal with it" from the usless officer.
The driver was never found (because they never looked) and the wall repair was eventually dealt with under insurance.

I would be complaining everyday to the CC on why there were no DNA and fingerprints taken at the scene, photographs and breath/blood tests of the alleged possible drivers.

Meanwhile, in the real world, nothing will happen and you will loose out.

bleesh

1,112 posts

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Sir Bagalot said:
Doesn't the MIB only cover you if you've only got TP cover?
No - the MIB scheme covers you for damage caused by uninsured/untraced drivers.
HOWEVER, your insurance comnpany will VERY RARELY tell you about the schem, as the more claims that it pays, the greater the premium THEY have to pay next year.




surveyor

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Elroy Blue

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D900SP said:
A similar thing happened to my mother; A "stolen" cap rammed the garden wall. Car was stuck and the driver ran away. Police did absolutely nothing, no fingerprints of the steering wheel, radio, mirror or keys, nothing was done except the reassuring "we will deal with it" from the usless officer.
The driver was never found (because they never looked) and the wall repair was eventually dealt with under insurance.

I would be complaining everyday to the CC on why there were no DNA and fingerprints taken at the scene, photographs and breath/blood tests of the alleged possible drivers.

Meanwhile, in the real world, nothing will happen and you will loose out.
DNA? Breath/blood testing 'alleged ' drivers?? Photographs?? Fingerprints??

You've been watching to many episodes of CSI I'm afraid (with a mixture of the bill thrown in)

davemac250

4,204 posts

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Ah, but nobody ever believes that we can't get prints off of everything.

Let alone the budget restraints.

deltashad

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http://www.uninsured-claims.co.uk/

This helps me with an ongoing dispute. Good luck getting everything sorted.
Mine was just a minor bump, your Golf was a really nice motor.


D900SP

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Elroy Blue said:
DNA? Breath/blood testing 'alleged ' drivers?? Photographs?? Fingerprints??

You've been watching to many episodes of CSI I'm afraid (with a mixture of the bill thrown in)
Actually no, my mother lives in a small suburb, where the police are seen sometimes, there are only two roads in or out, the police knew the vehicle owner before the vehicle was towed away (who obviously denied driving it) the vehicle owner's keys were in the ignition and the vehicle was registered within walking distance of where it hit the wall.
Basically, nothing was done or was ever going to be done.

Complete failure by the police to take any action as far as I am concerned.

paultownsend

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225 posts

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the PC has said they will use DNA if appropriate. drinks bottle, fag end etc. assume they will be some on the airbag. if they can match it to anyone. it takes at least 6 weeks if they do.

Agrilla

729 posts

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Sorry to hear about this - you must be pretty vexed.

Also, sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings here, but as per the wiki link earlier, a lot hangs on whether the driver can be identified. If they are, the. The other insurer should reimburse as RTA Insurer and them they can try and claim those costs back from the driver.

If they are NOT identified, then your own insurer will deal with it if you have comp cover (subject to deduction of your policy excess).

The MIB are unlikely to pick this up since:
1) they will not reimburse any subrogated claims (ie your insurers own outlay - and therefore your NCD will be reduced if it is not protected)
2) any claims made directly to them for property damage are subject to a £300 excess (ie they won't pay the first £300 of your losses) so if you have a very large excess you may be able to claim for some of this.
3) luckily, you werent in the car, so there is no injury compo to recover

Let's home that the old bill can put the thumbscrews on these toe rags and get a confession!

You should talk to your insurers claims department (not just the monkey that takes the notification either) to make sure you're really clear on what your options are here, and how each course will affect you.

Good luck!
http://www.mib.org.uk/NR/rdonlyres/085DE28C-9F25-4...


Also worth noting if you are asked to sign a credit hire agreement rather than getting a free courtesy car while you're waiting for your total loss cheque:

http://www.mib.org.uk/Customer+Services/en/Making+...

Elroy Blue

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D900SP said:
Actually no, my mother lives in a small suburb, where the police are seen sometimes, there are only two roads in or out, the police knew the vehicle owner before the vehicle was towed away (who obviously denied driving it) the vehicle owner's keys were in the ignition and the vehicle was registered within walking distance of where it hit the wall.
Basically, nothing was done or was ever going to be done.

Complete failure by the police to take any action as far as I am concerned.
And how do you PROVE he was driving it at the time. You know, that thing called beyond reasonable doubt. Knowing and proving are two very different things.

NiceCupOfTea

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Good luck; keep us updated.
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