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.richard
50 posts
88 months
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If no disabled badge deserves the maximum fine possible. The law is there for everyone. Have my space have my handicap. Sick of excuses. There are some very selfish people!
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Red Devil
4,233 posts
77 months
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.richard said: If no disabled badge deserves the maximum fine possible. The law is there for everyone. Have my space have my handicap. Sick of excuses. There are some very selfish people! I can only assume your post count over 6 years means you don't spend much time on here. Otherwise you would know that fines can only be imposed by a court not a PPC. There are two sides to every coin. A Blue Badge per se means diddly squat. I know of one individual who habitually abused her mother's (btw the Blue Badge Scheme does not apply to off-street car parks such as supermarkets etc) in order to avoid receiving PPC Parking Charge Notices. Her actions are by no means unique. Her scofflaw antics got so bad that she was rumbled by the LA when she used it once too often on yellow lines in town. They threatened her with prosecution and withdrwal of her mother's entitlement (on the grounds of abuse of the scheme for which the badge holder is liable).
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streaky
18,227 posts
118 months
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Who me said: streaky said: Who me said: IGNORE ,TOTALLY. This is not necessarily good advice. Check the wording carefully. If it is "Penalty", DO NOT ignore it. Streaky OP SAID "from Town & City Parking (TCP)." [ ... ] T & C DON'T OPERATE,to my knowledge in council parks) ... They do not claim to, but - for information - they do operate for British Waterways and parking tickets issued under the British Waterways Board General Canal Bye-laws 1965 can be enforced.. Mind you, the penalty is only a fiver. Streaky
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Tiggsy
7,177 posts
121 months
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.richard said: If no disabled badge deserves the maximum fine possible. The law is there for everyone. Have my space have my handicap. Sick of excuses. There are some very selfish people! If I park in a mother and baby spot can someone have my kids, they're pain in the arse.
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JulesB
505 posts
28 months
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I have recieved a number of parking fines in the last couple years threatened a million times to pay or face the wrath of bayliffs/court and eventually they go away. Never had one from disabled space though!
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BlackVanDyke
8,026 posts
80 months
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Sorry, this is a bit of a late thread resurrection but what the hell...
If your dad's gout is having a serious effect on his mobility more than half of the time (such that walking 100m at at least half normal speed is agonisingly painful, harmful or impossible), then there's a fair argument that he's eligible for a blue badge of his own, which should at the very least stop any further problems of this sort. Badges are assigned to people, not vehicles, so he would be able to use it in any other vehicle if needed, too. Might be that having the extra room to open the door wide is useful as well as being able to park closer to his destination.
Obviously having a badge doesn't oblige him to use it so on better days/weeks he could just leave it in the glove box, and park in the ordinary bays.
There's a real problem with people thinking that having a sprained ankle means that they can justify using disabled bays, which is clearly well out of order - but something like gout is unless I'm very much mistaken a lifelong problem, and having chatted to others in my rheumatologist's waiting room, certainly justifies asking for and making use of help like blue badges when it's bad.
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streaky
18,227 posts
118 months
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Tiggsy said: .richard said: If no disabled badge deserves the maximum fine possible. The law is there for everyone. Have my space have my handicap. Sick of excuses. There are some very selfish people! If I park in a mother and baby spot can someone have my kids, they're pain in the arse. I bet 'Er indoors had a similar feeling in close proximity (if they were born naturally). Streaky
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TwigtheWonderkid
6,027 posts
19 months
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Tiggsy said: If I park in a mother and baby spot can someone have my kids, they're pain in the arse. Years ago I had some woman knock on my front door and she said she was collecting donations for the local orphange. So I went and got my youngest, who was about 3 months old and bawling his head off, and handed him to her saying "here you go, he's one to start you off!" The look on her face!
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BertBert
7,048 posts
80 months
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In similar medical circs that limited my range, I knowingly parked in the supermarket disabled space (not being a blue badge holder) knowing I'd get a parking charge. I did and ignored it.
Normally I wouldn't park where I shouldn't, but in that case I was morally satisfied that I was disabled enough!
BB
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stemll
1,508 posts
69 months
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BlackVanDyke said: Sorry, this is a bit of a late thread resurrection but what the hell...
If your dad's gout is having a serious effect on his mobility more than half of the time (such that walking 100m at at least half normal speed is agonisingly painful, harmful or impossible), then there's a fair argument that he's eligible for a blue badge of his own, which should at the very least stop any further problems of this sort. Badges are assigned to people, not vehicles, so he would be able to use it in any other vehicle if needed, too. Might be that having the extra room to open the door wide is useful as well as being able to park closer to his destination.
Obviously having a badge doesn't oblige him to use it so on better days/weeks he could just leave it in the glove box, and park in the ordinary bays.
There's a real problem with people thinking that having a sprained ankle means that they can justify using disabled bays, which is clearly well out of order - but something like gout is unless I'm very much mistaken a lifelong problem, and having chatted to others in my rheumatologist's waiting room, certainly justifies asking for and making use of help like blue badges when it's bad. Gout is something I suffered from for a long time and whilst it is excruciatingly painful (I'm sure there are plenty of things more painful) there is no way it could qualify for a blue badge IMO. Mine was bad enough that I am now on drugs to control my uric acid level and even in my case it affected me (to the extent of limited mobility) for no more than 5 to 10 days a year and (I'll joke about it now I no longer suffer from it) it is just a sore toe most of the time  Ignore it for years and let it permanently trash your joints and it might qualify but quite why anyone would do that is beyond me.
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otolith
19,345 posts
73 months
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BlackVanDyke said: There's a real problem with people thinking that having a sprained ankle means that they can justify using disabled bays, which is clearly well out of order - but something like gout is unless I'm very much mistaken a lifelong problem, and having chatted to others in my rheumatologist's waiting room, certainly justifies asking for and making use of help like blue badges when it's bad. Actually, I don't think it would be a bad thing if GPs were authorised to issue very short term blue badges to people with serious temporary mobility issues.
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the_scorpion
518 posts
64 months
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.richard said: If no disabled badge deserves the maximum fine possible. The law is there for everyone. Have my space have my handicap. Sick of excuses. There are some very selfish people! He is NOT breaking any law parking in a disabled space on private land. The blue badge scheme does NOT apply to private land.
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stemll
1,508 posts
69 months
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the_scorpion said: .richard said: If no disabled badge deserves the maximum fine possible. The law is there for everyone. Have my space have my handicap. Sick of excuses. There are some very selfish people! He is NOT breaking any law parking in a disabled space on private land. The blue badge scheme does NOT apply to private land. Doesn't stop him being selfish though.
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the_scorpion
518 posts
64 months
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stemll said: the_scorpion said: .richard said: If no disabled badge deserves the maximum fine possible. The law is there for everyone. Have my space have my handicap. Sick of excuses. There are some very selfish people! He is NOT breaking any law parking in a disabled space on private land. The blue badge scheme does NOT apply to private land. Doesn't stop him being selfish though. Selfish yes, breaking the law in supermarkets etc, no
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Rovinghawk
1,975 posts
27 months
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.richard said: The law is there for everyone. Which law, exactly? RH
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grumpyscot
470 posts
61 months
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BlackVanDyke
8,026 posts
80 months
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otolith said: BlackVanDyke said: There's a real problem with people thinking that having a sprained ankle means that they can justify using disabled bays, which is clearly well out of order - but something like gout is unless I'm very much mistaken a lifelong problem, and having chatted to others in my rheumatologist's waiting room, certainly justifies asking for and making use of help like blue badges when it's bad. Actually, I don't think it would be a bad thing if GPs were authorised to issue very short term blue badges to people with serious temporary mobility issues. Totally agree. Humanitarian basically, especially as SSP isn't enough to sustain a family if the breadwinner is unable to work via not being able to park close enough etc. If the Powers That Be wanted to be a bit more cautious with it you could have it issued by consultants only, or something, instead.
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streaky
18,227 posts
118 months
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BlackVanDyke said: otolith said: BlackVanDyke said: There's a real problem with people thinking that having a sprained ankle means that they can justify using disabled bays, which is clearly well out of order - but something like gout is unless I'm very much mistaken a lifelong problem, and having chatted to others in my rheumatologist's waiting room, certainly justifies asking for and making use of help like blue badges when it's bad. Actually, I don't think it would be a bad thing if GPs were authorised to issue very short term blue badges to people with serious temporary mobility issues. Totally agree. Humanitarian basically, especially as SSP isn't enough to sustain a family if the breadwinner is unable to work via not being able to park close enough etc. If the Powers That Be wanted to be a bit more cautious with it you could have it issued by consultants only, or something, instead. Every lead-swinger and whiplash "sufferer" would get them, and there'd be no empty disabled bays for those who are truly disabled ... such as my blind FiL and non-ambulatory MiL. I don't usually swear on here, but this is a f  king stupid idea! Streaky
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otolith
19,345 posts
73 months
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streaky said: Every lead-swinger and whiplash "sufferer" would get them, and there'd be no empty disabled bays for those who are truly disabled ... such as my blind FiL and non-ambulatory MiL. I don't usually swear on here, but this is a f king stupid idea! Streaky I don't see that a permit for a week or two for someone who can't walk would be open to any more abuse than the current system is - I would guess there are far more people with chronic conditions than there are with broken bones or serious soft tissue injuries.
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covboy
1,341 posts
43 months
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TwigtheWonderkid said: Years ago I had some woman knock on my front door and she said she was collecting donations for the local orphange. So I went and got my youngest, who was about 3 months old and bawling his head off, and handed him to her saying "here you go, he's one to start you off!"
The look on her face! Sorry completely and utterly O/T but reminded me of a tale from a work colleague A more "respected" member of his community had recently been jailed for murdering his wife, when a few days later, the local Vicar called round and said he was making a collection on on his behalf. "Hang on" said work colleague "I've got a length of rope in the garage - you can use tha!" "That's not very charitable" said the Vicar "It wasn't very charitable what he did to his wife" was the reply
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