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simoid

8,714 posts

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Don't have enough information for that. If I had been told "it's normal for that to be sore for a while," then I might not.

I'd assume that if someone was in hospital for 18 hours, feeling extremely nauseous, they might see someone in the NHS at least once in the next 6 months for a checkup.

Don't know though. Ifs and buts.

dm46

231 posts

14 months

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simoid said:
Hold on a minute, there's a lot of abuse here and it's frankly another random PH witchhunt.

OP firstly asked if there had been negligence. See the title?

Don't you dare suggest that if any of you had been in fairly significant pain for 6 months because of negligence you wouldn't explore what to do about it.

Hypocrital, bandwagon jumping, holier-than-thou, shadenfreude, the lot of you.
Are you another parasitic leech by any chance?! I dare say you are probably fleecing the welfare state too. Fekin prick!

blindswelledrat

19,194 posts

102 months

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simoid said:
Hold on a minute, there's a lot of abuse here and it's frankly another random PH witchhunt.

OP firstly asked if there had been negligence. See the title?

Don't you dare suggest that if any of you had been in fairly significant pain for 6 months because of negligence you wouldn't explore what to do about it.

Hypocrital, bandwagon jumping, holier-than-thou, shadenfreude, the lot of you.
I've ended up in hospital for 2 weeks, unalble to walk for 5 months with permanent disfigurement due to an NHS operation becoming infected. Given that this has caused me no monetary loss and I am now fine, I chose to think of it as 'bad luck' (which even if I explored the negligence route- it may well be anyway).
I genuinely do not think I deserve money when I haven't lost any.

If negligence causes loss then I am all for exploring the legal options. BUt hypocritical comments like the OP's "Im not into blame culture but I cant help thinking theres some money in this" just sicken me. Its not a witch-hunt its an opinion.

simoid

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dm46 said:
Are you another parasitic leech by any chance?! I dare say you are probably fleecing the welfare state too.
No smile just fancied swimming against the tide today.

P.S. read the posting rules/delete the last 2 words of your post.

Edited by simoid on Tuesday 1st May 11:31

simoid

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blindswelledrat said:
I've ended up in hospital for 2 weeks, unalble to walk for 5 months with permanent disfigurement due to an NHS operation becoming infected. Given that this has caused me no monetary loss and I am now fine, I chose to think of it as 'bad luck' (which even if I explored the negligence route- it may well be anyway).
I genuinely do not think I deserve money when I haven't lost any.
Sorry to hear that.

blindswelledrat said:
If negligence causes loss then I am all for exploring the legal options. BUt hypocritical comments like the OP's "Im not into blame culture but I cant help thinking theres some money in this" just sicken me. Its not a witch-hunt its an opinion.
Perhaps I like to think the best of people, but the OP didn't strike me as asking: "how can I get a holiday out of my girlfriends vaguely sore leg?" so I don't quote him as saying that either.

I think he was just asking for some advice.

I think the advice (and abuse) that has been administered will hopefully have swayed his opinion smile
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Baryonyx

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29 months

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simoid said:
Perhaps I like to think the best of people, but the OP didn't strike me as asking: "how can I get a holiday out of my girlfriends vaguely sore leg?" so I don't quote him as saying that either.
You may be naive and blind to the OP's intentions, but in some small way, your tax will still end up funding his holiday.

blindswelledrat

19,194 posts

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simoid said:
Sorry to hear that.
Nice of you to say! But its fine and no permanent harm done except some aesthetics.

simoid said:
Perhaps I like to think the best of people, but the OP didn't strike me as asking: "how can I get a holiday out of my girlfriends vaguely sore leg?" so I don't quote him as saying that either.
I think this is where we differ. I think the OP could have phrased it in a completely different way which would have made me think the same as you.
I just read this: "I want to firstly establish that I'm not really into the whole legal action, blame culture thing. But, surely there is blame to be attributed here and therefore a claim should be made" as a pretty vulgar catoonesque pound-sign-fruitmachine-eyes.
Never mind.

simoid

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Baryonyx said:
simoid said:
Perhaps I like to think the best of people, but the OP didn't strike me as asking: "how can I get a holiday out of my girlfriends vaguely sore leg?" so I don't quote him as saying that either.
You may be naive and blind to the OP's intentions, but in some small way, your tax will still end up funding his holiday.
If the NHS has damaged his girlfriend's leg through negligence and a loss has occurred, c'est la vie.

simoid

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blindswelledrat said:
I think this is where we differ. I think the OP could have phrased it in a completely different way which would have made me think the same as you.
Ach well, I'm fairly uncynical!

blindswelledrat said:
I just read this: "I want to firstly establish that I'm not really into the whole legal action, blame culture thing. But, surely there is blame to be attributed here and therefore a claim should be made" as a pretty vulgar catoonesque pound-sign-fruitmachine-eyes.
Never mind.
I imagine the OP and OH could be a decent, hardworking couple, who have suffered as a result of negligence. Perhaps someone has recently said to them "'ere, you may be due compo for that!" and that's why it's been months since the injection.

Or they've been too busy tripping on kerbstones earning £10k per week to get round to this particular claim hehe

I'll probably never know!

Zeeky

1,717 posts

82 months

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Is there anyone here criticising the OP who would not consider claiming against a taxpayer-funded organisation that was vicariously liable for the negligence of one of it's drivers causing damage to their car?

simoid

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Zeeky said:
Is there anyone here criticising the OP who would not consider claiming against a taxpayer-funded organisation that was vicariously liable for the negligence of one of it's drivers causing damage to their car?
Well, that's slightly different if it was only to repair damage to your car.

If, however, you claimed a holiday's worth of damages for hyper-sensitivity, cramp, pain and general discomfort in your leg, or something like that...

Zeeky

1,717 posts

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If you have insurance you can claim on that. Why should the negligent driver pay?

Why do we have compulsory 3rd party liability insurance and not compulsory insurance of one's own property?

simoid

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Zeeky said:
If you have insurance you can claim on that. Why should the negligent driver pay?
Why would my insurer pay if another driver hit my car, shirley it's the other driver's insurance?

HowMuchLonger

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63 months

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Zeeky said:
Is there anyone here criticising the OP who would not consider claiming against a taxpayer-funded organisation that was vicariously liable for the negligence of one of it's drivers causing damage to their car?
If said accident occured 6 months before they decided to get the "damage" looked at then I suspect the thread would go the same way as this one.

mph1977

5,033 posts

38 months

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Du1point8 said:
[<snip>
Taken off cancer meds and put on blood thinner and we hoped and prayed the blood clot didn't move to her heart, eventually it thinned out and she was let out out ICU and she spent several days in hospital.
now that would be a miraculous occurance ... the clot has passed through the right side of the heart and into the lung , it will not reach the left side of the heart.

also the heart will happily pump clots floating in blood ...

swerni

20,101 posts

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I once had chemo and all my hair fell out.
Amongst other side effects, I also lost my sense of taste.
During this period I went to a very nice restaurant and had what looked like a fabulous meal which was rather expensive.


Do you think I can sue for the lack of enjoyment of the meal and the humiliation of having no hair?


(before you go into a panic, it was a private hospital and not NHS)

R300will

3,622 posts

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mph1977 said:
Du1point8 said:
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Taken off cancer meds and put on blood thinner and we hoped and prayed the blood clot didn't move to her heart, eventually it thinned out and she was let out out ICU and she spent several days in hospital.
now that would be a miraculous occurance ... the clot has passed through the right side of the heart and into the lung , it will not reach the left side of the heart.

also the heart will happily pump clots floating in blood ...
No it won't. And a pulmonary embolism isn't much fun either tbh. Also coronary arteries are small so the clot is more likely to get stuck in them rather than the bigger ones like the aorta/pulmonary vein.

mph1977

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R300will said:
mph1977 said:
Du1point8 said:
[<snip>
Taken off cancer meds and put on blood thinner and we hoped and prayed the blood clot didn't move to her heart, eventually it thinned out and she was let out out ICU and she spent several days in hospital.
now that would be a miraculous occurance ... the clot has passed through the right side of the heart and into the lung , it will not reach the left side of the heart.

also the heart will happily pump clots floating in blood ...
No it won't. And a pulmonary embolism isn't much fun either tbh. Also coronary arteries are small so the clot is more likely to get stuck in them rather than the bigger ones like the aorta/pulmonary vein.
couple of quick questions for you ?

how does a clot get from the peripheral venous system ( from a DVT ) to the 'venous' side of the lungs ?

how does the clot from the PE get through the capillary beds in the alveoli to the left side of the heart and then into a coronary artery ...

R300will

3,622 posts

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mph1977 said:
R300will said:
mph1977 said:
Du1point8 said:
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Taken off cancer meds and put on blood thinner and we hoped and prayed the blood clot didn't move to her heart, eventually it thinned out and she was let out out ICU and she spent several days in hospital.
now that would be a miraculous occurance ... the clot has passed through the right side of the heart and into the lung , it will not reach the left side of the heart.

also the heart will happily pump clots floating in blood ...
No it won't. And a pulmonary embolism isn't much fun either tbh. Also coronary arteries are small so the clot is more likely to get stuck in them rather than the bigger ones like the aorta/pulmonary vein.
couple of quick questions for you ?

how does a clot get from the peripheral venous system ( from a DVT ) to the 'venous' side of the lungs ?

how does the clot from the PE get through the capillary beds in the alveoli to the left side of the heart and then into a coronary artery ...
The Pulmonary vein is actually an 'artery' but the blood doesn't carry any oxygen so it is called a vein.
And it probably won't, unless it travels through an anastamose instead as these are larger in diameter than capillaries, hence the P.E. If it passed to the heart it wouldn't be a P.E it would probably end up as a myocardial infarction

Du1point8

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62 months

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R300will said:
mph1977 said:
R300will said:
mph1977 said:
Du1point8 said:
[<snip>
Taken off cancer meds and put on blood thinner and we hoped and prayed the blood clot didn't move to her heart, eventually it thinned out and she was let out out ICU and she spent several days in hospital.
now that would be a miraculous occurance ... the clot has passed through the right side of the heart and into the lung , it will not reach the left side of the heart.

also the heart will happily pump clots floating in blood ...
No it won't. And a pulmonary embolism isn't much fun either tbh. Also coronary arteries are small so the clot is more likely to get stuck in them rather than the bigger ones like the aorta/pulmonary vein.
couple of quick questions for you ?

how does a clot get from the peripheral venous system ( from a DVT ) to the 'venous' side of the lungs ?

how does the clot from the PE get through the capillary beds in the alveoli to the left side of the heart and then into a coronary artery ...
The Pulmonary vein is actually an 'artery' but the blood doesn't carry any oxygen so it is called a vein.
And it probably won't, unless it travels through an anastamose instead as these are larger in diameter than capillaries, hence the P.E. If it passed to the heart it wouldn't be a P.E it would probably end up as a myocardial infarction
Yep and thats what didn't occur and she is still with us today... very luck not to have a heart attack.

My mother is the expert on medical things I very remember all the details of the exact veins it managed to go down from the leg to the lungs, but getting to the heart is a very bad situation, hence why she was in ICU for a while until they knew it cleared rather than her being in a normal ward.
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