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Moogle

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251 posts

39 months

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Wednesday 13th June 2012 quote quote all
rewc said:
What were they apoligising for in their letter?
Breaking the law wink

Alex

6,250 posts

153 months

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Wednesday 13th June 2012 quote quote all
RESULT!

JMRS4

185 posts

67 months

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Wednesday 5th December 2012 quote quote all
ferrariF50lover said:
It's all very simple.

Pre-Gidden, the law related to the Interpretation Act 1978 s7,which allowed that once a letter had been correctly addressed, prepaid and posted, that it was 'served'.

The Justices in Gidden held that this was not, in fact, the correct way and that 'service' meant an item of post having been received by the intended recipient. This had the effect of making service by post a rebuttable presumption.

Thus, upon the sending of the NIP, it is for the defendant to show on the balance of probabilities that he did not receive it, and so it was not served, within the fourteen whole days after the date of offence.
This is achieved by the serving of a signed s9 Witness Statement to that effect.

The prosecution then must show, beyond all reasonable doubt, by cross examination at Court or by some other compelling evidence, that the content of the s9 is false and that the service of the NIP was valid.

So, in this case, mummy dearest serves upon the CPS the aforementioned s9, the Crown Prosecutor decides that he has bigger fish to fry than a petty speeding matter, and duly drops the case like a hot potato. You get a NOD in the post, job done.

HTH,

Simon.
SO Simon, I was flashed on the 20th November in the Limehouse tunnel, it is now the 5th December, thats 15 days after the event, should the NIP arrive now I can return it with an accompanying letter of "late service" or should I get the postman to witness the opening of the mail and sign accordingly?.

SS2.

7,383 posts

107 months

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Wednesday 5th December 2012 quote quote all
JMRS4 said:
O Simon, I was flashed on the 20th November in the Limehouse tunnel, it is now the 5th December, thats 15 days after the event, should the NIP arrive now I can return it with an accompanying letter of "late service" or should I get the postman to witness the opening of the mail and sign accordingly?.
Whose name is on the V5C ?

If yours, are the details correct and for how long ?

JMRS4

185 posts

67 months

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Saturday 8th December 2012 quote quote all
SS2. said:
Whose name is on the V5C ?

If yours, are the details correct and for how long ?
My name on the V5C and now it's been 18 Days so in the clear, I really thought I was done and dusted their.;)
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Steffan

6,190 posts

97 months

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Saturday 8th December 2012 quote quote all
JMRS4 said:
SS2. said:
Whose name is on the V5C ?

If yours, are the details correct and for how long ?
My name on the V5C and now it's been 18 Days so in the clear, I really thought I was done and dusted their.;)
Without wishing to be a pompous killjoy, I now have camera's in my cars to record journeys and scanners to identify radar signals. Given that virtually everybody speeds at some time every day I think that this is now worthwhile and also reduces the scammer insurance tricks. This has significantly reduced my own tendency to speed which must surely be good.

My worst speeding offence (years ago)was 89.4 on a 30 limit. It was in a very recently rerated dual carriageway, but even so I would probably be banned nowadays. The magistrates were more lenient then and I had a very good barrister mitigating crime.

JMRS4

185 posts

67 months

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Sunday 9th December 2012 quote quote all
Steffan said:
Without wishing to be a pompous killjoy, I now have camera's in my cars to record journeys and scanners to identify radar signals. Given that virtually everybody speeds at some time every day I think that this is now worthwhile and also reduces the scammer insurance tricks. This has significantly reduced my own tendency to speed which must surely be good.

My worst speeding offence (years ago)was 89.4 on a 30 limit. It was in a very recently rerated dual carriageway, but even so I would probably be banned nowadays. The magistrates were more lenient then and I had a very good barrister mitigating crime.
Nasty , todays courts would throw the book at you for that speed, it does make you more aware, my Rider did not work underground so no warnings.
I will remember that tunnel though.

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