Audi S3 Theft 7th June 2012
Discussion
It is sad that levels of actual/perceived safety even in ones home can be so low. I always lock my front door coming in/out of the house which some friends consider a bit OTT, however I live in the City Centre and due to the nature of my job have plenty of people who no doubt wish me harm, so it seems sensible.
oldsoak said:
hora said:
How many normal households do you know that have one nevermind two cctv's?!!
It must be a tasty area and/or the poor homeowner has had a few burglaries previously?
Depends on your definition of 'normal' I suppose.It must be a tasty area and/or the poor homeowner has had a few burglaries previously?
'Normal' in my area is a big unfriendly sounding dog ...or a recording of one.
In other places where decent home-owners are targeted regularly by the criminal low-life any amount of CCTV coverage could well be considered "normal".
Five CCTV cameras covering my property after an attempted break-in and a door-to-door scrote testing to see if anyone is in.
Relatively cheap to install and if the cameras makes the scrotes pick on someone else's property instead of mine then so much the better.
A bit like locking wheel nuts on your car. If someone wants your wheels, they'll rob them, but if there's a less well protected set nearby they'll go for those.
Of course, there's the reverse angle that CCTV cameras suggest there's something worth nicking...
Relatively cheap to install and if the cameras makes the scrotes pick on someone else's property instead of mine then so much the better.
A bit like locking wheel nuts on your car. If someone wants your wheels, they'll rob them, but if there's a less well protected set nearby they'll go for those.
Of course, there's the reverse angle that CCTV cameras suggest there's something worth nicking...
shunaphil said:
I find it so sad that so many people have to live like this. I couldn't imagine living anywhere where locking my house was necessary. I don't actually know where my house keys are!
<lights blue touchpaper and retires 5 metres>Summary execution is all that is needed to make the world a better place.
For some reason we tend to allow those who habitually make other peoples lives a misery to live...and to carry on doing what they do again and again...
Hope the thieving scumbags are caught and justice is served.
I did find it quite odd how they went to the trouble of closing the door behind them afterwards, it even looked like they lifted the door handle up, as many doors these days need you to do in order to lock it. I'd have thought they'd have been more preoccupied with getting the feck out.
I did find it quite odd how they went to the trouble of closing the door behind them afterwards, it even looked like they lifted the door handle up, as many doors these days need you to do in order to lock it. I'd have thought they'd have been more preoccupied with getting the feck out.
gazchap said:
Hope the thieving scumbags are caught and justice is served.
I did find it quite odd how they went to the trouble of closing the door behind them afterwards, it even looked like they lifted the door handle up, as many doors these days need you to do in order to lock it. I'd have thought they'd have been more preoccupied with getting the feck out.
Looked (to me)like he was preventing the home occupier from following them outside until his dumb mate discovered which key fitted what and they'd made good their escape...I did find it quite odd how they went to the trouble of closing the door behind them afterwards, it even looked like they lifted the door handle up, as many doors these days need you to do in order to lock it. I'd have thought they'd have been more preoccupied with getting the feck out.
gazchap said:
Hope the thieving scumbags are caught and justice is served.
I did find it quite odd how they went to the trouble of closing the door behind them afterwards, it even looked like they lifted the door handle up, as many doors these days need you to do in order to lock it. I'd have thought they'd have been more preoccupied with getting the feck out.
It looked like he was holding the door to stop the householder chasing them whilst his moron mate was failing to get the highly complicated car open.I did find it quite odd how they went to the trouble of closing the door behind them afterwards, it even looked like they lifted the door handle up, as many doors these days need you to do in order to lock it. I'd have thought they'd have been more preoccupied with getting the feck out.
I would imagine that in the circumstances described most people would give them what they want, but a considerable percentage (myself included) would then arm themselves when they are on the back foot and go after them...
Food for thought - in certain american states house burglary is virtually non-existent, as most householders are heavily armed - and their are few (if any) sanctions for killing an intruder.....
Although, contrary to popular belief (and there are many legal precendents) killing an intruder if in fear of your life (or that of others) is 'legal' in the UK - but you cannot use such force to protect property.
In the case of the OP, I would assume (if it happened to me) that I was in fear of my life (or my families) and hope I would have the wherewithal (sp?) to act accordingly.
Although, contrary to popular belief (and there are many legal precendents) killing an intruder if in fear of your life (or that of others) is 'legal' in the UK - but you cannot use such force to protect property.
In the case of the OP, I would assume (if it happened to me) that I was in fear of my life (or my families) and hope I would have the wherewithal (sp?) to act accordingly.
oldsoak said:
<lights blue touchpaper and retires 5 metres>
Summary execution is all that is needed to make the world a better place.
For some reason we tend to allow those who habitually make other peoples lives a misery to live...and to carry on doing what they do again and again...
It'll be quiet ... just me and thee ... and I'm not sure thee'll last.Summary execution is all that is needed to make the world a better place.
For some reason we tend to allow those who habitually make other peoples lives a misery to live...and to carry on doing what they do again and again...
Streaky
A momentary lapse in security - normally kept locked.
ChrisRustage
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ChrisRustage
Married, kids, business owner & lighting tech for tv - bike nut, cup thief, nice guy!
Manchester, UK. ·
https://twitter.com/#!/ChrisRustage
Durzel said:
Hopefully his insurance company won't be arses about it. The guy has admitted to a "momentary lapse in security" in leaving the front door unlocked, though I guess it's some distance away from insurance claims being voided because of people leaving their keys in the ignition?
Why would they be arses? What are you basing this on?There is no "momentary lapse in seurity" in terms of having the keys within his property. There is no reason to void the policy. And no reason at all for the insurance company not to pay out.
This question came up because someone who doesn't know how car insurance works asked:
welshjohn said:
How would the insurance claim fair out now?
My answer was:LoonR1 said:
It'd be paid no problem, if anything it'll get paid quicker than normal, given the absolute clarity of the theft.
So why do you think there will be any issue at all?For info, leaving your keys in the ignition in an unlocked car is so far removed from this scenario as to be completely irrelelvant.
bigandclever said:
shunaphil said:
I find it so sad that so many people have to live like this. I couldn't imagine living anywhere where locking my house was necessary.
And I can't imagine why you wouldn't lock your doors.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff