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Pontoneer
2,702 posts
56 months
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My satnav is an app on my phone .
The phone lives in its cradle ( part of the Thb Bury carkit ) mounted on the left side of the console .
I have mine set to auto dim after dark ( why do so many ignoramuses have them on full brightness in the middle of the screen at night ? ) and sometimes , mainly longer journeys , also to mute the screen above 40mph ( an option in TomTom ) .
Most of the time I dont even look at the screen and just listen to the audible directions .
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daz3210
5,000 posts
110 months
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bigjobbo said: The test carried out is drivers view of the road, seated in the drivers seat I look outwards looking for obstructions of the road. Tax disc? Not in the way at all. If somebody had left their satnav cradle on the screen, personally I would remove it and place it on the seat, failing on that is feasible but harsh. If some one has cut their wipers down I would fail it on insufficient coverage.  Is there a set down coverage for all cars then? All the cars I have had have had different size blades on the wipers. And I have to check when I get in my car next time, but I'm sure my rear view mirror is well within the swept area of the screen.
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bigjobbo
86 posts
80 months
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daz3210 said: bigjobbo said: The test carried out is drivers view of the road, seated in the drivers seat I look outwards looking for obstructions of the road. Tax disc? Not in the way at all. If somebody had left their satnav cradle on the screen, personally I would remove it and place it on the seat, failing on that is feasible but harsh. If some one has cut their wipers down I would fail it on insufficient coverage. Is there a set down coverage for all cars then? All the cars I have had have had different size blades on the wipers. And I have to check when I get in my car next time, but I'm sure my rear view mirror is well within the swept area of the screen. Don't question the law, "they" don't like it when you question their well written rule book! Manufacturers original designs, ie interior mirrors, are allowed, not subject to the test. The wiper coverage must be adequate enough to give me a good view of the road, not a set coverage.
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Athlon
2,382 posts
76 months
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Also, tax discs and some permits are exempt because they have to be on display.
On the refresher they stated for MOT purposes if it does not affect the view of the road it is OK, i.e. if the obstruction only affects the view of the bonnet you are fine (from an MOT point of view, NOT C&U which is not us lot!)
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Happy Chappy
Original Poster
18 posts
12 months
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Athlon said: Also, tax discs and some permits are exempt because they have to be on display.
On the refresher they stated for MOT purposes if it does not affect the view of the road it is OK, i.e. if the obstruction only affects the view of the bonnet you are fine (from an MOT point of view, NOT C&U which is not us lot!) So if the MOT inspector is a short guy you have more more chance of a fail? Does the refresher over-ride the DFT guidelines and the diagram I originally posted?
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Athlon
2,382 posts
76 months
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We are allowed to use common sense believe it or not but funny enough the height of the driver was discussed during that section! at the end of the day it is the drivers view of the road, not bonnet or sky, we are left to decide, if someone is not happy they can appeal.
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Happy Chappy
Original Poster
18 posts
12 months
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Athlon said: We are allowed to use common sense believe it or not but funny enough the height of the driver was discussed during that section! at the end of the day it is the drivers view of the road, not bonnet or sky, we are left to decide, if someone is not happy they can appeal. Thanks for that  So when do the DFT regulations apply, no obstructions encroaching more than 40mm within the swept wiper area etc? Is it actually a legal requirement?
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