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creampuff

1,220 posts

12 months

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oyster said:
So he dealt with it by acting like a yob?

What a hero.
Seems like appropriate justice to me. On the off chance that they have not done it before and any sort of lesson will stop them from doing it again, then a punch in the face is far preferable to the alternative which is a criminal record.

If you had done something stupid what would you prefer: a punch in the face or a criminal record for life or at least for the best part of a decade until it becomes expunged?

rj1986

446 posts

37 months

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omgus said:
oyster said:
So he dealt with it by acting like a yob?

What a hero.
It is always best to explain something in a way that gets the message across clearly and concisely.

For the kind of mouth breather who would scratch a nice car because it was something they don't have i think a smack round the face is a suitable method. And very restrained IMO.
Criminal: I'd like to report an assault!

Police officer: What happened?

C: He punched me in the face repeatedly!

P: Why did he do that?

C: Because he caught me key...ing... his.... nevermind.

oyster

5,198 posts

117 months

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Devil2575 said:
oyster said:
Hammy13 said:
It's funny this thread popped up, my friend was with his dad yesterday when they caught a bloke keying his RS4. He told me it was the best punch he's ever seen!
So he dealt with it by acting like a yob?

What a hero.
Not what I would do but I don't see a problem with it.

You deliberately scratch someones car, they punch you.

Seems fair to me.
So, if they deliberately scratch it AND dent it, is it fair to kidnap them?
What if they set fire to it? Rape the perpetrator's daughter?

I'm curious as to how this medieval justice works.

Accelebrate

2,713 posts

84 months

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A friend had her W reg faded red shed of a Fabia keyed whilst parked in a public car park, no other cars had been damaged and she hadn't upset anyone.

oyster

5,198 posts

117 months

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Big E 118 said:
oyster said:
Hammy13 said:
It's funny this thread popped up, my friend was with his dad yesterday when they caught a bloke keying his RS4. He told me it was the best punch he's ever seen!
So he dealt with it by acting like a yob?
What a hero.
So you wouldn't protect your own property? Maybe you'd let them finish it off while you call the police and see if they turn up in time and if they are interested in prosecuting?
No I wouldn't protect it.
I'll protect my family and friends if I can, but some pieces of glued-together metal? No I will not risk escalation or retribution for a car. It's insured and replaceable.

Apart from anything else, if they are prepared to key a car, I suspect they may have no qualms about going much further, and I suspect most PH'ers have a lot more to lose from escalation than a scrote does.
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CaptainSensib1e

365 posts

90 months

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So, serious question, has anyone on here ever keyed a car? If so, why? how did it make you feel? And did you regret it later? I'm sure there must be someone who has.

Silver

4,012 posts

95 months

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Jealousy? Idiocy? Boredom? Who knows.

My old Golf GTi was keyed along one door and a wing by some chicken-footed imbecile. Fortunately, a subsequent ding from a carelessly-secured barn door where I lived meant my landlord paid for it to be repaired. OH had his old Seat keyed outside a bar in Cheshunt - no idea why, it wasn't even a particularly flashy car.

A guy I went to college with told me quite proudly about how he and his mate used to get drunk and go and smash the windscreens of BMWs/Mercs and other cars of that ilk because according to him if they had expensive cars they must be wkers. He got a piece of my mind, I can tell you. .

AndyNetwork

1,357 posts

63 months

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I've got a battered old Skoda, with more scratches than paint on it, but if I caught someone keying it, then I would feel obliged to key tt into his face!!!

If the system won't deal with it, then they should expect the victim to deal with it as he/she feels fit.

hedgefinder

1,401 posts

39 months

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a bunch of hippy fk wit students from newcastle university used to regularly do this sort of thing in the early hours of the morning to any large high end or 4x4 vehicle parked around the jesmod area a few years back (dont know if it still happens)- also used to run over vehicles, throw buckets of mud or st on them etc... eco warriors - probably all lecturers now ffs.....

Short Grain

151 posts

89 months

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2 or 3 years ago,some drunken footy 'fan' decided to key half a dozen cars parked down the street to celebrate after his team earned promotion to the Premier. Key one, Miss one, Key one, Miss one etc. Thankfully mine was one of the Missed ones!!
The BIB found the culprit after about 3 weeks and he was charged, convicted, and ordered to pay. Wether he did or not I don't know, but the stupid thing is, he lived 3 or 4 houses further down the street from the last car he keyed!!
He moved away. Wonder why!

rumpelstiltskin

2,340 posts

128 months

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carlove said:
Jealousy usually.
I don 't think jealousy comes into play with my other halfs 97 Punto,she just won't part with it lol.It's been keyed on both sides and one morning the door was bent in half,someone tried to half inch it!!I've now made a drive in front of the house and nothing's happened since.I just think it's with car's out on the street prompting wanton damage from youths or pub goers on their way home.

Dave Hedgehog

5,320 posts

73 months

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Big E 118 said:
oyster said:
Hammy13 said:
It's funny this thread popped up, my friend was with his dad yesterday when they caught a bloke keying his RS4. He told me it was the best punch he's ever seen!
So he dealt with it by acting like a yob?
What a hero.
So you wouldn't protect your own property? Maybe you'd let them finish it off while you call the police and see if they turn up in time and if they are interested in prosecuting?
Ironically the guy i caught keying my B5 RS4 was still where i left him 20 mins later ...

Silver

4,012 posts

95 months

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hedgefinder said:
a bunch of hippy fk wit students from newcastle university used to regularly do this sort of thing in the early hours of the morning to any large high end or 4x4 vehicle parked around the jesmod area a few years back (dont know if it still happens)- also used to run over vehicles, throw buckets of mud or st on them etc... eco warriors - probably all lecturers now ffs.....
A while ago there was a Green activist group going around London posting stickers on 4x4s and I wrote about it, suggesting that it wasn't the place of environmentalists to dictate what cars people drove or vandalise them because they disapproved and got lots of criticism and abuse with a bit of patronisation just for good measure.

It pisses me off - sure, no-one NEEDS a Range Rover in the inner city but there's no law to tell people what they can and can't drive based on where they live so tough titty.

As a car owner and a student a few years ago I used to regularly get asked for lifts to various places and it wasn't uncommon to find myself being lectured about climate change and how motorists were the spawn of satan. From someone sitting in the front seat, enjoying a quick ride home rather than a long walk, feeling that they could tell me I should sell the car (despite me telling them I lived 25 miles away and worked 40 hours a week) and cycle, this didn't go down too well.

Biker's Nemesis

22,696 posts

77 months

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oyster said:
Hammy13 said:
It's funny this thread popped up, my friend was with his dad yesterday when they caught a bloke keying his RS4. He told me it was the best punch he's ever seen!
So he dealt with it by acting like a yob?

What a hero.
Eh. What would you have done?

Biker's Nemesis

22,696 posts

77 months

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oyster said:
No I wouldn't protect it.
I'll protect my family and friends if I can, but some pieces of glued-together metal? No I will not risk escalation or retribution for a car. It's insured and replaceable.

Apart from anything else, if they are prepared to key a car, I suspect they may have no qualms about going much further, and I suspect most PH'ers have a lot more to lose from escalation than a scrote does.
Now thats where you're wrong, they seem to do it under cover of darkness when they think no one will be around.


jondude

1,512 posts

86 months

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These people key cars simply because their upbringing, lack of success and general thickness leaves them to believe that if they are having a bad time, so should everyone else.

Silver

4,012 posts

95 months

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Biker's Nemesis said:
oyster said:
No I wouldn't protect it.
I'll protect my family and friends if I can, but some pieces of glued-together metal? No I will not risk escalation or retribution for a car. It's insured and replaceable.

Apart from anything else, if they are prepared to key a car, I suspect they may have no qualms about going much further, and I suspect most PH'ers have a lot more to lose from escalation than a scrote does.
Now thats where you're wrong, they seem to do it under cover of darkness when they think no one will be around.
I disagree with oyster though I take his point. There are lines of how you deal with stuff:

- you look out of the window during the day and see someone walking around your car on the drive so you go out and are reasonably polite but ask what they're doing and are reasonably forceful though not aggressive.

- it's getting dark and someone approaches you as you get out of the car on your drive and starts questioning you. You talk to them but you feel suspicious/threatened, you make it clear you're not up for conversation and are slightly more aggressive.

- it's night time, you're inside and it's late. You see or hear someone poking around your car outside. You open the door and someone fronts up to you immediately and you can't see a weapon. What do you do?

The majority of people, myself included, in the last situation would respond in the same manner and aggressively ask what they're doing along with threats to call the police or whatever (the latter for the muscled company directors on PH).

It's not the right thing to do, but you do it anyway. Is there anyone on here who would shut the door immediately and not say anything to the person on the drive?

Yes, it is metal and insured, but it's also your property and a massive hassle to replace so unless someone approaches you with an actual weapon, I think I'd be inclined to put up at least a semblance of a fight in the hope that they did a runner instead.


Who me ?

3,858 posts

81 months

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Hammy13 said:
It's funny this thread popped up, my friend was with his dad yesterday when they caught a bloke keying his RS4. He told me it was the best punch he's ever seen!
Only thing they respect. Is keyer going to take action - I doubt it.

W41RU5

66 posts

21 months

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I had my first car keyed all along the right side from bonnet to boot (nearly 4 years ago) and only recently found out who did it, turns out he'd seen me talking to his girlfriend at a bus stop or something. Some people really are pathetic!

Also last week some scumbag bent the wiper arms up and badly scratched the bonnet of my car which I'd foolishly parked on the street. I can safetly say if I caught the fkers in the acti would do everything inmy power to severely hurt them. In order to have a relatively nice car at my age I have a high insurance excess to make it affordable, why should I fork out several hundred pounds because some scumbag thinks its funny to vandalise a car on the way back from the pub?!?! tts the lot of them and I'm pleased to hear about someone knocking one out!

Derek Smith

16,023 posts

117 months

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It's not jealousy.

Who would be jealous of my 1999 2ltr Mondeo? Yet it was keyed a couple of years ago.

I've often tried to work out what anyone gets from wanton vandalism but after 30 years in the job I still didn't have a clue. It certainly isn't jealousy. It is not, by any means, council house scum who are the only perpetuators. Nor just the stupid.

I've nicked university just graduates. I've had brought into me a bloke who had a very well paid job in a bank tear down a canopy over an Italian restaurant that had cost the shopkeeper over a £thousand to put up a couple of weeks before (he was fined something pathetic but the shopkeeper sued him and was paid the costs of replacement, greater than the original one because the damaged one had to be removed, plus his costs). All he was worried about was his bank finidng out he'd got a conviction.

I was off duty with a colleague in Lisle Street in Chinatown when two blokes who had been drinking went along kicking in windows. One shopkeeper told them that he'd only just bought the place and didn't have insurance but one kicked the window in whilst laughing at him.

Absolutely bewildering. And really infuriating.

If only it was jealousy but it is, I think, an aberration, a rather common one, of humans.

The only common ground I've found is that they smell of alcohol.
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